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From: Crispin Cowan <crispin@wirex.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	linux-security-module@wirex.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Binary only module overview
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 17:22:52 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3BB2715C.1040506@wirex.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E15mNsv-0002Cv-00@the-village.bc.nu>

Alan Cox wrote:

>>I'm really trying to be constructive here.  There is a real licensing 
>>problem over whether binary modules are legitimate at all, and the issue 
>>is not special to LSM. I'm trying to get LSM out of the way so that the 
>>advocates of either side can fight it out without smushing LSM in the 
>>middle :-)
>>
>Yes - I agree. The question is "can you be using the LSM module" not
>the headers - since LSM is GPL and your work relies on it 
>
I'm confused as to which question Alan is asking, so I'll answer several :-)

    * "What is the licensing on the LSM module?" Crispin's pedantic
      response: there is no "the" LSM module. LSM is a patch to enrich
      the existing Linux loadable kernel module interface to allow
      access control modules. These modules do exist:
          * There is a dummy module (useful as a template) which just
            does the superuser check ("UID==0" and access is granted)
            and it is GPL'd.
          * There is a module that embodies the guts of POSIX
            capabilities, and it is GPL'd.
          * There is a port of SELinux to LSM (produced by the SELinux
            team) and it is GPL'd.
    * "Can you use the LSM interface with a non-GPL module, if you
      eschew GPL'd .h files?" Crispin's opinion: I dunnow, but the
      answer is the same as the answer for current Linux loadble kernel
      modules. If loading a module is "linking", then all modules &
      device drivers must be GPL'd.
    * "Can a non-GPL LSM module #include a GPL'd .h?" Crispin's opinion:
      I dunnow, but the answer is the same as the answer for many
      current Linux applications.  I know, this is the question Alan did
      not ask :-)

Crispin is not a lawyer/judge, so his opinion doesn't matter anyway :-)

Crispin

-- 
Crispin Cowan, Ph.D.
Chief Scientist, WireX Communications, Inc. http://wirex.com
Security Hardened Linux Distribution:       http://immunix.org
Available for purchase: http://wirex.com/Products/Immunix/purchase.html



  reply	other threads:[~2001-09-27  0:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-09-24 20:24 Binary only module overview Crispin Cowan
2001-09-24 23:39 ` Alan Cox
2001-09-25 23:09   ` Crispin Cowan
2001-09-25 23:15     ` jmjones
2001-09-26  3:24     ` Greg KH
2001-09-26 19:17       ` Crispin Cowan
2001-09-26 19:34         ` Alan Cox
2001-09-26 20:01         ` Greg KH
2001-09-26 22:50           ` Crispin Cowan
2001-09-26 23:14             ` Alan Cox
2001-09-27  0:22               ` Crispin Cowan [this message]
2001-09-27  2:19               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2001-09-26 23:26             ` Greg KH
2001-09-26 20:38         ` Brian Hatch
2001-09-26 21:37         ` David Weinehall
2001-09-26 21:45           ` Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
2001-09-26 21:58             ` Alan Cox
2001-09-26 22:09               ` Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
2001-09-26 22:20                 ` Alan Cox
2001-09-26 23:03                   ` Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
2001-09-26 23:46               ` Greg KH
2001-09-27 12:09                 ` Alan Cox
2001-09-27 16:49                   ` Greg KH
2001-09-28 22:50                     ` Alan Cox
2001-09-29  2:05                       ` jmjones
2001-09-29  3:37                         ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-29  3:57                           ` jmjones
2001-09-29 14:20                         ` Alan Cox
2001-09-26 22:12           ` Crispin Cowan
2001-09-26 16:36     ` Alan Cox
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-09-26 15:38 Giacomo Catenazzi
2001-09-26 13:08 KRAMER,STEVEN (HP-USA,ex1)
2001-09-25 22:38 Chad Hanson
2001-09-24 19:52 Petr Vandrovec
2001-09-24 18:03 ` Dave McCracken
2001-09-24 18:15   ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-09-24 16:40 Arjan van de Ven
2001-09-24 16:53 ` Rasmus Bøg Hansen
2001-09-24 16:58   ` Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
2001-09-24 17:02   ` Andreas Steinmetz
2001-09-24 17:08   ` Anders Peter Fugmann
2001-09-24 17:24     ` Dave McCracken
2001-09-24 23:32   ` Alan Cox
2001-09-24 16:54 ` Alan Cox
2001-09-24 17:15 ` Kai Germaschewski
2001-09-24 17:16 ` Rick Haines
2001-09-24 17:17 ` Greg KH
2001-09-24 20:40   ` Casey Schaufler
2001-09-24 23:25     ` Alan Cox
2001-09-25 16:22       ` Casey Schaufler
2001-09-24 17:35 ` Steve Lord
2001-09-24 20:06 ` Michael Leun
2001-09-24 21:18 ` Nerijus Baliunas
2001-09-24 22:57 ` Brian Strand
2001-09-25 15:44 ` Greg KH
2001-09-25 19:09   ` Mark Zealey
2001-09-25 19:24     ` Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
2001-09-25 20:42     ` Greg KH
2001-09-25 21:09       ` Roberto Nibali
2001-09-25 21:16         ` Greg KH
2001-09-25 22:14           ` Roberto Nibali
2001-09-25 22:15             ` Greg KH
2001-09-25 22:39               ` Roberto Nibali
2001-09-25 22:40       ` Greg KH
2001-09-26 16:38         ` Alan Cox
2001-09-25 16:43 ` Fabbione
2001-09-28  2:38   ` Edward S. Marshall
2001-09-25 23:24 ` Jes Sorensen
2001-09-28 14:09 ` Daniel Caujolle-Bert
2001-09-28 14:14   ` Arjan van de Ven
2001-09-28 14:42     ` Alan Cox
2001-09-28 14:52       ` Nicholas Knight
2001-09-29  9:04         ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-09-28 19:44       ` Daniel Caujolle-Bert

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