From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 17:58:27 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 17:58:17 -0400 Received: from cc361913-a.flrtn1.occa.home.com ([24.0.193.171]:18048 "EHLO mirai.cx") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 17:58:04 -0400 Message-ID: <3BB7918E.E74A3BE4@pobox.com> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 14:41:34 -0700 From: J Sloan Organization: J S Concepts X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.10 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "M. Edward Borasky" CC: linux-kernel Subject: [OT] New Anti-Terrorism Law makes "hacking" punishable by life in prison In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org "M. Edward Borasky" wrote: > 2. The Linux community should *not* believe that we are less vulnerable than > Microsoft! We are less vulnerable *now* only because Linux is not as > widespread as Windows. OK, the obvious question: If apache is 60% of the market and IIS is 25% (and I have heard that apache on Linux is about 33% of the web server market) how do you see that as windows/iis being more popular than the linux/apache platform? and yet, windows/iis has the lions share of vulnerabilities - your arguments lie in tatters.... > Were Linux, say, half of the market, the > vulnerability would be equal. The difference is strictly the number of > available hosts for these parasitic codes, not anything inherent in the > details of Windows or Linux, or in the organizational mechanisms (corporate > giant vs. "brutal meritocracy", closed source vs. open source, etc.). I think Unix's long history of multiuser, networked operation gives it quite a bit more sophistication in areas of security, as opposed to windows, a single user system which has in the past few years become widely networked. I'm not saying Linux/Unix users should rest on their laurels or be lulled into a sense of false security, but come on, let's at least be realistic about the very real advantages of Unix OSes over PC OSes in this area. cu jjs