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From: "D. Stimits" <stimits@idcomm.com>
To: unlisted-recipients:; (no To-header on input)@localhost.localdomain
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [OT] New Anti-Terrorism Law makes "hacking" punishable by lifein  prison
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 17:24:00 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3BB7A990.A7269167@idcomm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0109301744350.12896-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu>

Alexander Viro wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 30 Sep 2001, M. Edward Borasky wrote:
> 
> > 1. The losses to businesses from just these two virus attacks are
> > *significant*, and people are angry about the fact. They're looking for
> > someone to blame, someone to propose a solution and tools to prevent future
> > attacks. I personally think stiff fines and long prison sentences for
> > releasing attack software into the world's business network should have been
> > instituted a long time ago. Life without parole seems to me quite reasonable
> > under the circumstances.
> 
> Let's start with conslutants who kept pushing crap into said network.
> And continue with those who had bred tons of worthless "certified"
> wankers pretending to be sysadmins, driving the wages down and replacing
> clued people with illiterate trash.  Getting rid of script kiddies is
> nice, but fsckwits who are directly responsible for current situation
> should be first against the wall.

Don't forget the management that is interested in paper skills, rather
than ability to do the job. Unless you can add some things on paper,
like particular certifications, you can't even get an interview.

D. Stimits, stimits@idcomm.com

> 
> > 2. The Linux community should *not* believe that we are less vulnerable than
> > Microsoft! We are less vulnerable *now* only because Linux is not as
> > widespread as Windows. Were Linux, say, half of the market, the
> > vulnerability would be equal. The difference is strictly the number of
> 
> Like, say it, in case of apache?  It's _more_ widespread than target of
> Code Red and Nimda.
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2001-09-30 23:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-09-24 23:22 [OT] New Anti-Terrorism Law makes "hacking" punishable by life in prison Paul G. Allen
2001-09-24 23:35 ` Alan Cox
2001-09-25  0:34   ` Michael Rothwell
2001-09-25  0:40     ` Dan Hollis
2001-09-27 14:21       ` Pavel Machek
2001-09-26 11:48   ` Luigi Genoni
2001-09-26 12:15     ` [OT] New Anti-Terrorism Law makes "hacking" punishable by lifein prison Eugenio Mastroviti
2001-09-24 23:37 ` [OT] New Anti-Terrorism Law makes "hacking" punishable by life in prison Rik van Riel
2001-09-25  1:29   ` Jeff V. Merkey
2001-09-25  0:44     ` Crutcher Dunnavant
2001-09-25  0:52       ` David S. Miller
2001-09-25  1:32     ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-27 14:23     ` Pavel Machek
2001-09-30 21:16       ` M. Edward Borasky
2001-09-30 21:41         ` J Sloan
2001-09-30 22:40           ` M. Edward Borasky
2001-09-30 23:12             ` J Sloan
2001-10-01  1:15             ` Gerhard Mack
2001-10-01  1:29             ` Jan Harkes
2001-09-30 22:03         ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-30 23:24           ` D. Stimits [this message]
2001-10-01  0:17             ` [OT] New Anti-Terrorism Law makes "hacking" punishable by lifein prison Michael Bacarella
2001-10-01  0:33               ` M. Edward Borasky
2001-10-01  1:26               ` Stefan Smietanowski
2001-10-01  9:20           ` [OT] New Anti-Terrorism Law makes "hacking" punishable by life Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-09-30 22:57         ` [OT] New Anti-Terrorism Law makes "hacking" punishable by life in prison John Gluck
2001-09-30 23:32           ` D. Stimits
2001-10-01  8:47         ` Helge Hafting
2001-10-01 10:41           ` Manfred Bartz
2001-10-01 12:27             ` John Jasen
2001-10-01 12:54               ` Ookhoi
2001-10-01 11:47           ` [Moving rapidly away from LKM] (Was: Re: [OT] New Anti-Terrorism Law makes "hacking" punishable by life in) Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-10-01 13:12             ` Helge Hafting
2001-10-01  9:28         ` [OT] New Anti-Terrorism Law makes "hacking" punishable by life in prison Bernd Petrovitsch
2001-10-01 12:00         ` Daniel Phillips
2001-10-02  9:40         ` Vojtech Pavlik
2001-09-25 11:04   ` [OT] New Anti-Terrorism Law makes "hacking" punishable by life Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-09-27 14:18 ` [OT] New Anti-Terrorism Law makes "hacking" punishable by life in prison Pavel Machek

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