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From: Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>
To: jamal <hadi@cyberus.ca>
Cc: Simon Kirby <sim@netnation.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Alexey Kuznetsov <kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru>,
	Robert Olsson <Robert.Olsson@data.slu.se>,
	Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@redhat.com>,
	netdev@oss.sgi.com, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [announce] [patch] limiting IRQ load, irq-rewrite-2.4.11-B5
Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 08:56:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3BBC8692.9F48DA85@candelatech.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.30.0110040742191.9341-100000@shell.cyberus.ca>

jamal wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, Ben Greear wrote:
> 
> > The tulip driver only started working for my DLINK 4-port NIC after
> > about 2.4.8, and last I checked the ZYNX 4-port still refuses to work,
> > so I wouldn't consider it a paradigm of stability and grace quite yet.
> 
> The tests in www.cyberus.ca/~hadi/247-res/ were done with 4-port znyx
> cards using 2.4.7.
> What kind of problems are you having? Maybe i can help.

Mostly problems with auto-negotiation it seems.  Earlier 2.4 kernels
just would never go 100bt/FD.  Later (broken) versions would claim to
be 100bt/FD, but they still showed lots of collisions and frame errors.

I'll try the ZYNX on the latest kernel in the next few days and let you
know what I find...

> My point is that the API exists. Driver owners could use it; this
> discussion seems to have at least helped to point in the existence of the
> API. Alexey had the hardware flow control in there since 2.1.x .., us
> that at least. In my opinion, Ingos patch is radical enough to be allowed
> in when we are approaching stability. And it is a lazy way of solving the
> problem

The API has been there since 2.1.x, and yet few drivers support it?  I
can see why Ingo decided to fix the problem generically.  I think it would
be great if his code printed a log message upon trigger that basically said:
"You should get yourself a NAPI enabled driver that does flow-control if
possible."  That may give the appropriate visibility to the issue and let
the driver writers improve their drivers accordingly...

Ben

> 
> cheers,
> jamal
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2001-10-04 15:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 151+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-10-02  0:41 [announce] [patch] limiting IRQ load, irq-rewrite-2.4.11-B5 jamal
2001-10-02  1:04 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-10-02  1:54   ` jamal
2001-10-02  5:13     ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-10-02  5:55       ` Ben Greear
2001-10-02 17:03         ` Robert Olsson
2001-10-02 17:37           ` jamal
2001-10-02 19:46           ` Andreas Dilger
2001-10-03  9:22         ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-03 14:06           ` David Brownell
2001-10-02 12:10       ` jamal
2001-10-02 22:00         ` jamal
2001-10-03  8:34           ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-03  9:29             ` Helge Hafting
2001-10-03 12:49             ` jamal
2001-10-03 14:51               ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-03 15:14                 ` jamal
2001-10-03 17:28                   ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-04  0:53                     ` jamal
2001-10-04  6:28                       ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-04 11:34                         ` jamal
2001-10-04 17:40                           ` Andreas Dilger
2001-10-04 18:33                             ` jamal
2001-10-04  6:50                       ` Ben Greear
2001-10-04  6:52                         ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-04 11:50                           ` jamal
2001-10-04  6:55                         ` Jeff Garzik
2001-10-04  6:56                           ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-04 21:28                 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-10-04 21:49                   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-10-04 23:20                     ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-10-04 23:26                       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-10-04 23:47                         ` Robert Love
2001-10-04 23:51                           ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-05  0:00                             ` Ben Greear
2001-10-05  0:18                               ` Davide Libenzi
2001-10-05  2:01                               ` jamal
2001-10-04 22:01                   ` Simon Kirby
2001-10-04 23:25                     ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-10-04 23:34                       ` Simon Kirby
2001-10-04 22:10                   ` Alan Cox
2001-10-04 23:28                     ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-10-05 15:22                     ` Robert Olsson
2001-10-03  9:38           ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-03 13:03             ` jamal
2001-10-03 13:25               ` jamal
2001-10-03 13:38               ` Robert Olsson
2001-10-04 21:22                 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-10-05 14:32                   ` Robert Olsson
2001-10-03 15:28               ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-03 15:56                 ` jamal
2001-10-03 16:51                   ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-03 21:08                     ` Robert Olsson
2001-10-03 22:22                       ` Andreas Dilger
2001-10-04 17:32                         ` Davide Libenzi
2001-10-05 14:52                         ` Robert Olsson
2001-10-05 18:48                           ` Andreas Dilger
2001-10-05 19:07                             ` Davide Libenzi
2001-10-05 19:17                             ` kuznet
2001-10-07  6:11                               ` Robert Olsson
2001-10-08 13:58                               ` jamal
2001-10-08 17:42                                 ` Robert Olsson
2001-10-08 17:39                                   ` jamal
2001-10-04  0:46                     ` jamal
2001-10-08  0:31                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-10-08  4:58                       ` Bernd Eckenfels
2001-10-08 15:00                       ` Alan Cox
2001-10-08 15:03                         ` Jeff Garzik
2001-10-08 15:12                           ` Alan Cox
2001-10-08 15:09                             ` jamal
2001-10-08 15:22                               ` Alan Cox
2001-10-08 15:20                                 ` jamal
2001-10-08 15:35                                   ` Alan Cox
2001-10-08 15:57                                     ` jamal
2001-10-08 16:11                                       ` Alan Cox
2001-10-08 16:11                                         ` jamal
2001-10-10 16:26                                         ` Pavel Machek
2001-10-10 16:25                                     ` Pavel Machek
2001-10-08 15:24                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-10-08 15:35                               ` Alan Cox
2001-10-08 15:19                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-10-08 15:10                       ` bill davidsen
2001-10-03 16:53                 ` kuznet
2001-10-03 17:06                   ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-04  0:44                     ` jamal
2001-10-04  6:35                       ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-04 11:41                         ` jamal
2001-10-04 13:05                         ` Robert Olsson
2001-10-05 16:42                         ` kuznet
2001-10-03 19:03                   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-10-04  1:10                     ` jamal
2001-10-04  1:30                       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-10-03 22:31                         ` Rob Landley
2001-10-04  1:39                         ` jamal
2001-10-03 15:42               ` Ben Greear
2001-10-03 15:58                 ` jamal
2001-10-03 16:09                   ` Ben Greear
2001-10-03 16:14                     ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-03 16:20                     ` Jeff Garzik
2001-10-03 16:33                 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-03 17:25                   ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-03 18:11                     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-03 20:41                       ` Jeremy Hansen
2001-10-03 20:02                   ` Simon Kirby
2001-10-04  1:04                     ` jamal
2001-10-04  6:47                       ` Ben Greear
2001-10-04  7:41                         ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-10-04 16:09                           ` Ben Greear
2001-10-04 17:32                             ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-10-04 18:03                               ` Ben Greear
2001-10-04 18:30                           ` Christopher E. Brown
2001-10-04 11:47                         ` jamal
2001-10-04 15:56                           ` Ben Greear [this message]
2001-10-04 18:23                             ` jamal
2001-10-04  6:50                       ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-04 11:49                         ` jamal
2001-10-04  8:45                       ` Simon Kirby
2001-10-04 11:54                         ` jamal
2001-10-04 15:03                           ` Tim Hockin
2001-10-04 18:55                           ` Ion Badulescu
2001-10-04 19:00                             ` jamal
2001-10-04 21:16                               ` Ion Badulescu
2001-10-04  4:12                   ` bill davidsen
2001-10-04 18:16                   ` Alan Cox
2001-10-03  8:38         ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-04  3:50           ` bill davidsen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-10-08 14:45 jamal
2001-10-09  0:36 ` Scott Laird
2001-10-09  3:17   ` jamal
2001-10-09  4:04 ` Werner Almesberger
2001-10-04  8:25 Magnus Redin
2001-10-04 11:39 ` Trever L. Adams
     [not found] <200110031811.f93IBoN10026@penguin.transmeta.com>
2001-10-03 18:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-04  9:19   ` BALBIR SINGH
2001-10-04  9:22     ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-04  9:49       ` BALBIR SINGH
2001-10-04 10:25         ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-07 20:37           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-10-03 14:15 Manfred Spraul
2001-10-03 15:09 ` jamal
2001-10-03 18:37   ` Davide Libenzi
2001-10-01 22:16 Ingo Molnar
2001-10-01 22:26 ` Tim Hockin
2001-10-01 22:50   ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-01 22:36 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-10-01 22:50 ` Ben Greear
2001-10-02 14:30   ` Alan Cox
2001-10-02 20:51     ` Ingo Molnar
2001-10-01 23:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-02  6:50 ` Marcus Sundberg
2001-10-03  8:47   ` Ingo Molnar

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