From: "BALBIR SINGH" <balbir.singh@wipro.com>
To: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo@conectiva.com.br>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: pre6 VM issues
Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 19:47:37 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3BC30701.2060908@wipro.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0110091031470.5604-100000@freak.distro.conectiva>
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Most of the traditional unices maintained a pool for each subsystem
(this is really useful when u have the memory to spare), so not matter
what they use memory only from their pool (and if needed peek outside),
but nobody else used the memory from the pool.
I have seen cases where, I have run out of physical memory on my system,
so I try to log in using the serial console, but since the serial driver
does get_free_page (this most likely fails) and the driver complains back.
So, I had suggested a while back that important subsystems should maintain
their own pool (it will take a new thread to discuss the right size of
each pool).
Why can't Linux follow the same approach? especially on systems with a lot
of memory.
Balbir
Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I've been testing pre6 (actually its pre5 a patch which Linus sent me
>named "prewith 16GB of RAM (thanks to OSDLabs for that), and I've found
>out some problems. First of all, we need to throttle normal allocators
>more often and/or update the low memory limits for normal allocators to a
>saner value. I already said I think allowing everybody to eat up to
>"freepages.min" is too low for a default.
>
>I've got atomic memory failures with _22GB_ of swap free (32GB total):
>
> eth0: can't fill rx buffer (force 0)!
>
>Another issue is the damn fork() special case. Its failing in practice:
>
>bash: fork: Cannot allocate memory
>
>Also with _LOTS_ of swap free. (gigs of them)
>
>Linus, we can introduce a "__GFP_FAIL" flag to be used by _everyone_ which
>wants to do higher order allocations as an optimization (eg allocate big
>scatter-gather tables or whatever). Or do you prefer to make the fork()
>allocation a separate case ?
>
>I'll take a closer look at the code now and make the throttling/limits to
>what I think is saner for a default.
>
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-10-09 14:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-10-09 12:44 pre6 VM issues Marcelo Tosatti
2001-10-09 12:48 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-10-09 14:17 ` BALBIR SINGH [this message]
2001-10-09 13:01 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-10-09 14:37 ` BALBIR SINGH
2001-10-09 13:22 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-10-09 14:43 ` BALBIR SINGH
2001-10-09 14:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-10-09 14:56 ` BALBIR SINGH
2001-10-09 14:31 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-10-09 13:13 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-10-09 14:42 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-10-09 13:23 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-10-09 14:53 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-10-09 14:50 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-10-09 13:34 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-10-09 15:39 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-10-09 15:08 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-10-09 16:49 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-10-09 17:07 ` Linus Torvalds
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