From: george anzinger <george@mvista.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>
Cc: "Dieter Nützel" <Dieter.Nuetzel@hamburg.de>,
"Andrea Arcangeli" <andrea@suse.de>,
"Robert Love" <rml@tech9.net>,
"Linux Kernel List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: 2.4.10-ac10-preempt lmbench output.
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 11:14:04 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3BC48FEC.B3D8BA15@mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200110100358.NAA17519@isis.its.uow.edu.au> <3BC3D916.B0284E00@zip.com.au>
Andrew Morton wrote:
>
> Dieter Nützel wrote:
> >
> > Andrew have you a current version of your lowlatency patches handy?
> >
>
> mm.. Nice people keep sending me updates. It's at
> http://www.uow.edu.au/~andrewm/linux/schedlat.html and applies
> to 2.4.11 with one little reject. I don't know how it's
> performing at present - it's time for another round of tuning
> and testing.
>
> wrt this discussion: I would assume that xmms is simply stalling
> on disk access. All it takes is for one of its text pages to be
> dropped and it could have to wait a very long time indeed to
> come back to life. The disk read latency could easily exceed
> any sane buffering in the sound card or its driver.
>
> The application should be using mlockall(MCL_FUTURE) and it should
> run `nice -19' (SCHED_FIFO and SCHED_RR are rather risky - if the
> app gets stuck in a loop, it's time to hit the big button).
When running any RT tasks it is aways wise to have an open shell running
at a higher priority. It is also neccessary to have an open console
path to the shell which may mean that X needs to be up there too. But
if this is just a back door, an alternative console could be outside of
X and do the trick.
George
> If the
> app isn't doing both these things then it just doesn't have a chance.
>
> I don't understand why Andrea is pointing at write throttling? xmms
> doesn't do any disk writes, does it??
>
> Andrea's VM has a rescheduling point in shrink_cache(), which is the
> analogue of the other VM's page_launder(). This rescheduling point
> is *absolutely critial*, because it opens up what is probably the
> longest-held spinlock in the kernel (under common use). If there
> were a similar reschedulig point in page_launder(), comparisons
> would be more valid...
>
> I would imagine that for a (very) soft requirement such as audio
> playback, the below patch, combined with mlockall and renicing
> should fix the problems. I would expect that this patch will
> give effects which are similar to the preempt patch. This is because
> most of the other latency problems are under locks - icache/dcache
> shrinking and zap_page_range(), etc.
>
> This patch should go into the stock 2.4 kernel.
>
> Oh. And always remember to `renice -19' your X server.
>
> --- linux-2.4.11/mm/filemap.c Tue Oct 9 21:31:40 2001
> +++ linux-akpm/mm/filemap.c Tue Oct 9 21:47:51 2001
> @@ -1230,6 +1230,9 @@ found_page:
> page_cache_get(page);
> spin_unlock(&pagecache_lock);
>
> + if (current->need_resched)
> + schedule();
> +
> if (!Page_Uptodate(page))
> goto page_not_up_to_date;
> generic_file_readahead(reada_ok, filp, inode, page);
> @@ -2725,6 +2728,9 @@ generic_file_write(struct file *file,con
> if (!PageLocked(page)) {
> PAGE_BUG(page);
> }
> +
> + if (current->need_resched)
> + schedule();
>
> kaddr = kmap(page);
> status = mapping->a_ops->prepare_write(file, page, offset, offset+bytes);
> --- linux-2.4.11/fs/buffer.c Tue Oct 9 21:31:40 2001
> +++ linux-akpm/fs/buffer.c Tue Oct 9 22:08:51 2001
> @@ -29,6 +29,7 @@
> /* async buffer flushing, 1999 Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de> */
>
> #include <linux/config.h>
> +#include <linux/compiler.h>
> #include <linux/sched.h>
> #include <linux/fs.h>
> #include <linux/slab.h>
> @@ -231,6 +232,10 @@ static int write_some_buffers(kdev_t dev
> static void write_unlocked_buffers(kdev_t dev)
> {
> do {
> + if (unlikely(current->need_resched)) {
> + __set_current_state(TASK_RUNNING);
> + schedule();
> + }
> spin_lock(&lru_list_lock);
> } while (write_some_buffers(dev));
> run_task_queue(&tq_disk);
> --- linux-2.4.11/fs/proc/array.c Sun Sep 23 12:48:44 2001
> +++ linux-akpm/fs/proc/array.c Tue Oct 9 21:47:51 2001
> @@ -414,6 +414,9 @@ static inline void statm_pte_range(pmd_t
> pte_t page = *pte;
> struct page *ptpage;
>
> + if (current->need_resched)
> + schedule(); /* For `top' and `ps' */
> +
> address += PAGE_SIZE;
> pte++;
> if (pte_none(page))
> --- linux-2.4.11/fs/proc/generic.c Sun Sep 23 12:48:44 2001
> +++ linux-akpm/fs/proc/generic.c Tue Oct 9 21:47:51 2001
> @@ -98,6 +98,9 @@ proc_file_read(struct file * file, char
> retval = n;
> break;
> }
> +
> + if (current->need_resched)
> + schedule(); /* Some proc files are large */
>
> /* This is a hack to allow mangling of file pos independent
> * of actual bytes read. Simply place the data at page,
> -
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Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <200110100358.NAA17519@isis.its.uow.edu.au>
2001-10-10 5:13 ` 2.4.10-ac10-preempt lmbench output Andrew Morton
2001-10-10 5:26 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-10-10 11:41 ` safemode
2001-10-10 12:00 ` safemode
[not found] ` <20011010120009.851921E7C9@Cantor.suse.de>
2001-10-10 13:36 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-10-10 15:37 ` Dieter Nützel
2001-10-10 20:10 ` Justin A
2001-10-10 23:42 ` safemode
2001-10-11 0:30 ` Mike Fedyk
2001-10-10 18:14 ` george anzinger [this message]
[not found] <20011010035818.A556B1E760@Cantor.suse.de>
2001-10-10 4:23 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-10-10 4:42 ` Dieter Nützel
[not found] ` <20011010044242.82D131E768@Cantor.suse.de>
2001-10-10 4:48 ` Andrea Arcangeli
[not found] <200110100358.f9A3wSB17421@zero.tech9.net>
2001-10-10 4:02 ` Robert Love
2001-10-10 4:04 ` Robert Love
2001-10-10 4:27 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-10-10 3:57 Dieter Nützel
[not found] <200110100036.UAA128640@ufl.edu>
2001-10-10 2:02 ` Robert Love
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-10-10 0:36 safemode
2001-10-10 1:18 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-10-10 2:09 ` safemode
2001-10-10 2:10 ` Robert Love
2001-10-10 2:51 ` Andrea Arcangeli
[not found] ` <20011010020935.50DEF1E756@Cantor.suse.de>
2001-10-10 2:30 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-10-10 2:37 ` Robert Love
2001-10-10 3:06 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-10-10 3:24 ` Robert Love
2001-10-10 4:03 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-10-12 13:22 ` Pavel Machek
2001-10-13 20:42 ` Mike Fedyk
2001-10-13 23:21 ` Robert Love
2001-10-14 6:18 ` Pavel Machek
2001-10-10 5:25 ` Justin A
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