From: Mika Liljeberg <Mika.Liljeberg@welho.com>
To: kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru
Cc: ak@muc.de, davem@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: TCP acking too fast
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 20:26:01 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3BC9CAA9.7378075B@welho.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200110141707.VAA06123@ms2.inr.ac.ru>
kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru wrote:
>
> Hello!
>
> > Not very hard at all. It could be done easily with a couple of extra
> > state variables.
>
> Does current heuristics not work? :-)
Well, you should read the preceding messages to understand how we got
here.
Andi had some reservations and I tend to agree. The current heuristic
assumes specific TCP behaviour, which is left as an implementation issue
in specifications. Conclusion: it works if you're lucky.
But it's true I can't show you any data to the contrary, either. This is
not the issue that started this thread.
> > state variables. The following is a rough pseudo code (ignores
> > initialization of state variables):
>
> You missed one crucial moment: stream may consist of remnants
> for long time or even forever. It is normal case. And rcv_mss is used
> not only and mostly not for ACKing, it is used in really important places
> (SWS avoidance et al), where specs propose to use your advertised MSS,
> which does not work at all when you talk over high MTU interfaces.
I don't think I missed that point.
> The approach (invented by Andi?) provided necessary robustness,
> checking for two segments in row and suppressing MSS drops below 536.
> Check for PSHless segments allows to detect really low mtu reliably.
When you say "reliably", you should recognize the underlying assumptions
as well.
> Alexey
Regards,
MikaL
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-10-14 17:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-10-14 0:23 TCP acking too fast Mika Liljeberg
2001-10-14 6:40 ` David S. Miller
2001-10-14 7:05 ` Mika Liljeberg
2001-10-14 7:47 ` David S. Miller
2001-10-14 7:51 ` Mika Liljeberg
2001-10-14 8:12 ` David S. Miller
2001-10-14 8:39 ` Mika Liljeberg
2001-10-14 9:03 ` David S. Miller
2001-10-14 9:15 ` Mika Liljeberg
2001-10-14 9:16 ` David S. Miller
2001-10-14 9:25 ` Andi Kleen
2001-10-14 9:39 ` David S. Miller
2001-10-14 11:30 ` Andi Kleen
2001-10-14 11:49 ` Mika Liljeberg
2001-10-14 14:05 ` Andi Kleen
2001-10-14 14:26 ` Mika Liljeberg
2001-10-14 16:12 ` Andi Kleen
2001-10-14 16:55 ` Mika Liljeberg
2001-10-14 17:07 ` kuznet
2001-10-14 17:26 ` Mika Liljeberg [this message]
2001-10-14 17:35 ` kuznet
2001-10-14 17:56 ` Mika Liljeberg
2001-10-14 18:20 ` kuznet
2001-10-14 18:48 ` Mika Liljeberg
2001-10-14 19:12 ` kuznet
2001-10-14 19:32 ` Mika Liljeberg
2001-10-14 19:40 ` kuznet
2001-10-14 20:06 ` Mika Liljeberg
2001-10-15 18:40 ` kuznet
2001-10-15 19:15 ` Mika Liljeberg
2001-10-15 19:38 ` Mika Liljeberg
2001-10-14 13:14 ` [PATCH] " Mika Liljeberg
2001-10-14 16:36 ` kuznet
2001-10-14 7:50 ` David S. Miller
2001-10-14 7:53 ` Mika Liljeberg
2001-10-15 20:59 ` Bill Davidsen
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