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From: Mika Liljeberg <Mika.Liljeberg@welho.com>
To: kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru
Cc: ak@muc.de, davem@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: TCP acking too fast
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 23:06:01 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3BC9F029.3897ABE5@welho.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200110141940.XAA07004@ms2.inr.ac.ru>

kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru wrote:
> > And why (1) is a problem is precisely what I don't understand. Nagle is
> > *supposed* to prevent you from sending multiple remnants.
> 
> It is not supposed to delay between sends for delack timeout.
> Nagle did not know about brain damages which his great idea
> will cause when used together with delaying acks. :-)

Well, I think this "problem" is way overstated. With a low latency path
the delay ack estimator should already take care of this. With a high
latency path you're out of luck in any case.

Besides, as I said, you can always disable Nagle in an interactive
application. I suppose it would be nice to have a socket option to
disable delayack as well, just for completeness.

> > is acked. This can be solved using an idea from Greg Minshall, which I
> > thought was quite cool.
> 
> It is approach used in 2.4. :-)

Cool. :)

> It does help when sender is also linux-2.4. :-)
> 
> Alexey

Regards,

	MikaL

  reply	other threads:[~2001-10-14 20:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-10-14  0:23 TCP acking too fast Mika Liljeberg
2001-10-14  6:40 ` David S. Miller
2001-10-14  7:05   ` Mika Liljeberg
2001-10-14  7:47     ` David S. Miller
2001-10-14  7:51       ` Mika Liljeberg
2001-10-14  8:12         ` David S. Miller
2001-10-14  8:39           ` Mika Liljeberg
2001-10-14  9:03             ` David S. Miller
2001-10-14  9:15               ` Mika Liljeberg
2001-10-14  9:16                 ` David S. Miller
2001-10-14  9:25               ` Andi Kleen
2001-10-14  9:39                 ` David S. Miller
2001-10-14 11:30                   ` Andi Kleen
2001-10-14 11:49                     ` Mika Liljeberg
2001-10-14 14:05                       ` Andi Kleen
2001-10-14 14:26                         ` Mika Liljeberg
2001-10-14 16:12                           ` Andi Kleen
2001-10-14 16:55                             ` Mika Liljeberg
2001-10-14 17:07                               ` kuznet
2001-10-14 17:26                                 ` Mika Liljeberg
2001-10-14 17:35                                   ` kuznet
2001-10-14 17:56                                     ` Mika Liljeberg
2001-10-14 18:20                                       ` kuznet
2001-10-14 18:48                                         ` Mika Liljeberg
2001-10-14 19:12                                           ` kuznet
2001-10-14 19:32                                             ` Mika Liljeberg
2001-10-14 19:40                                               ` kuznet
2001-10-14 20:06                                                 ` Mika Liljeberg [this message]
2001-10-15 18:40                                                   ` kuznet
2001-10-15 19:15                                                     ` Mika Liljeberg
2001-10-15 19:38                                                       ` Mika Liljeberg
2001-10-14 13:14                     ` [PATCH] " Mika Liljeberg
2001-10-14 16:36                     ` kuznet
2001-10-14  7:50     ` David S. Miller
2001-10-14  7:53       ` Mika Liljeberg
2001-10-15 20:59 ` Bill Davidsen

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