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From: Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>
To: Tim Bird <tbird@lineo.com>
Cc: no To-header on input 
	<"unlisted-recipients:;;"@www.candelatech.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Input on the Non-GPL Modules - legal nonsense
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 08:30:45 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3BD43BA5.B9E8E557@candelatech.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E15v4Dz-0002VM-00@the-village.bc.nu> <3BD1F5CC.20BF3F20@candelatech.com> <3BD438ED.360D0007@lineo.com>

Tim Bird wrote:
> 
> Ben Greear wrote:
> >
> > Alan Cox wrote:
> > >
> > > > What prevents the author of a non-GPL module who needs access to a
> > > > GPL-only symbol from writing a small GPLed module which imports the
> > > > GPL-only symbol (this is allowed, because the small module is GPL),
> > > > and exports a basically identical symbol without the GPL-only
> > > > restriction?
> > >
> > > The fact that it ends up GPL'd to be linked (legal derivative work sense)
> > > to the GPL'd code so you can link it to either but not both at the same time
> >
> > If you own the copyright to the small shim GPL piece, can anyone else
> > take legal action on your part?  If not, then all you have to do is not
> > sue yourself for the double linkage and no one else can sue you either....
> 
> I keep hearing this type of reasoning.  It flat-out doesn't work
> this way in the legal system.  This is similar to arguing that
> you didn't really stab someone if you threw the knife instead
> of holding it. ("But your honor, once the knife left my hand
> it really wasn't under my control...")

I'm not advocating this as a good thing to do, but I am curious:  Can someone
else take action against this?  I hope the answer is yes.  This
whole thing begins to look like MS's attempts at securing digital music:
there are just too many ways around it.  Either way,
I've had my say on this topic...and will let it RIP.

Ben

> 
> If your actions bring about the result, whether
> directly or indirectly, you are legally liable for the
> consequences.
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Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>       <Ben_Greear AT excite.com>
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  reply	other threads:[~2001-10-22 15:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-10-18 15:29 Input on the Non-GPL Modules Greg Boyce
2001-10-18 16:00 ` M. R. Brown
2001-10-18 16:32 ` Jan Niehusmann
2001-10-18 17:08   ` Tony Hoyle
2001-10-18 17:15     ` Jan Niehusmann
2001-10-18 19:01       ` Tim Bird
2001-10-18 19:38   ` Rik van Riel
2001-10-20 22:04   ` Alan Cox
2001-10-20 22:08     ` Ben Greear
2001-10-22 15:19       ` Input on the Non-GPL Modules - legal nonsense Tim Bird
2001-10-22 15:30         ` Ben Greear [this message]
2001-10-22 17:04           ` Jan Niehusmann
2001-10-25  6:24         ` David Schwartz
2001-10-26  3:58           ` Rob Landley
2001-10-20 22:20     ` Input on the Non-GPL Modules Anton Altaparmakov
2001-10-21 14:28       ` Alan Cox
2001-10-20 22:58     ` Craig Milo Rogers

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