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From: Pierre Rousselet <pierre.rousselet@wanadoo.fr>
To: Nick LeRoy <nleroy@cs.wisc.edu>
Cc: Ricardo Martins <thecrown@softhome.net>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: on exit xterm  totally wrecks linux 2.4.11 to 2.4.14-pre6 (unkillable processes)
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 21:00:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3BE1A9D5.3000508@wanadoo.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3BE1777F.30705@softhome.net> <3BE1A042.7030806@softhome.net> <3BE1A308.7030400@wanadoo.fr> <200111011945.fA1Jj0G09069@schroeder.cs.wisc.edu>



Nick LeRoy wrote:

> On Thursday 01 November 2001 13:31, Pierre Rousselet wrote:
> 
>>Ricardo Martins wrote:
>>
>>> >> Procedure
>>> >> In X windows (version 4.1.0 compiled from the sources) when writing
>>> >> "exit" in xterm to close the terminal emulator, the window freezes,
>>> >> and from that moment on, every process becomes "unkillable",
>>> >> including
>>>
>>>xterm
>>>
>>> >> and X (ps also freezes), and there's no way to shutdown GNU/Linux in
>>> >> a sane way (must hit reset or poweroff).
>>> >
>>> >I can see the problem here with 2.4.13. I don't know if it's kernel
>>> >related, I'm used using rxvt, never xterm.
>>> >
>>> >It looks like xterm takes the terminal where you started X from.
>>> >
>>> >Are you using devfs ?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Pierre
>>>
>>>Pierre, yes, i'm using devfs that seems to be the problem, do you know
>>>how to fix it ?
>>>
>>Is it devfs or xterm which needs to be fixed ? I would
>>
>>suggest to switch to rxvt which works fine with/without devfs.
>>
> 
> With all due respect, I'd have to differ.....  Do you have any idea how many 
> people are running how many copies of xterm as we speak?  Even if we pair 
> that down to all those running devfs, it's certainly a substantial number.  
> The kernel should, above all else, run old applications without breaking them.
> 
> -Nick


devfs is still marked EXPERIMENTAL in the kernel building. If you select it you

must be prepared to tolerate some misbehaviour. rxvt is not newer than 
xterm, it is lighter.

Pierre



-- 
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  Pierre Rousselet <pierre.rousselet@wanadoo.fr>
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  reply	other threads:[~2001-11-01 20:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-11-01 16:25 on exit xterm totally wrecks linux 2.4.11 to 2.4.14-pre6 (unkillable processes) Ricardo Martins
2001-11-01 19:05 ` Pierre Rousselet
2001-11-01 19:19 ` Ricardo Martins
2001-11-01 19:31   ` Pierre Rousselet
2001-11-01 19:44     ` Nick LeRoy
2001-11-01 20:00       ` Pierre Rousselet [this message]
2001-11-01 20:06         ` Nick LeRoy
2001-11-01 20:13           ` Jeffrey W. Baker
2001-11-01 20:35             ` Nick LeRoy
2001-11-01 20:40               ` Rik van Riel
2001-11-01 21:34                 ` Richard Gooch
2001-11-02  3:41                 ` David Ford
2001-11-01 20:42               ` Brian Gerst
2001-11-09  1:17           ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2001-11-01 19:47   ` Ricardo Martins
2001-11-01 19:58     ` Per Lidén
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-11-02  6:16 Chris Rankin

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