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From: "François Cami" <stilgar2k@wanadoo.fr>
To: "J.A. Magallon" <jamagallon@able.es>
Cc: James A Sutherland <jas88@cam.ac.uk>, war <war@starband.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Swap
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 23:21:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3BF83459.9080601@wanadoo.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3BF82443.5D3E2E11@starband.net> <E165ZRi-000718-00@mauve.csi.cam.ac.uk> <20011118230540.A2042@werewolf.able.es>

J.A. Magallon wrote:


> Yes, a box without swap runs faster, but if you *don't do anything* with it. The test
> shown in previous mails had a ton of apps opened *doing nothing*. Try do do
> a grep several times on the kernel source tree for example in that scenario.
> Or a kernel build. They will be dog slow (all the tries). Try the same on
> a box with swap, the second time much things are cached and it flies.

I tend to both agree and disagree with you.


fact :
I don't use more than 350MB of my 512MB for apps (and that's a
worst case scenario), and I guess than 150MB of RAM is enough
for caching, at least in my case.

I agree that a box that uses 99% of its RAM for apps
will be dog slow ; but I simply have to disagree with
swapping apps I *use* when 66% of my RAM is free.
Have you tried pulling openoffice from swap to RAM ?
If doing a second [and third, and so on] grep on the kernel source
tree is dog slow without swap, pulling openoffice from swap is
*snail* slow.

François


  reply	other threads:[~2001-11-18 22:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-11-18 21:12 Swap war
2001-11-18 21:25 ` Swap James A Sutherland
2001-11-18 21:28   ` Swap war
2001-11-18 21:42     ` Swap François Cami
2001-11-18 21:45       ` Swap war
2001-11-18 23:03       ` Swap Erik Gustavsson
2001-11-19 18:12         ` Swap Eric W. Biederman
2001-11-19 18:43           ` Swap Rik van Riel
2001-11-20  2:49             ` Swap Eric W. Biederman
2001-11-20  3:33               ` Swap Ryan Cumming
2001-11-20 11:43                 ` Swap Rik van Riel
2001-11-20 11:41               ` Swap Rik van Riel
2001-11-19 19:12           ` Swap James A Sutherland
2001-11-20  2:47             ` Swap Eric W. Biederman
2001-11-20  9:16               ` Swap James A Sutherland
2001-11-18 22:05   ` Swap J.A. Magallon
2001-11-18 22:21     ` François Cami [this message]
2001-11-18 22:36     ` Swap Charles Marslett
2001-11-18 22:54       ` Swap J.A. Magallon
2001-11-18 23:36     ` Swap Bernd Eckenfels
     [not found] <fa.inl6g6v.1mmbp4@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.heevhav.sjs8an@ifi.uio.no>
2001-11-18 22:15   ` Swap Dan Maas
2001-11-18 22:43     ` Swap François Cami
2001-11-19  9:18       ` Swap James A Sutherland
2001-11-19 10:51         ` Swap Remco Post
2001-11-19 13:33           ` Swap James A Sutherland
2001-11-19 13:46             ` Swap Remco Post
2001-11-19 16:58               ` Swap Rik van Riel
     [not found]                 ` <Pine.LNX.4.33L.0111191458150.1491-100000@duckman.distro.conecti va>
2001-11-19 21:13                   ` Swap Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-11-19 21:17                     ` Swap Rik van Riel
     [not found]                       ` <Pine.LNX.4.33L.0111191917000.1491-100000@duckman.distro.conecti va>
2001-11-19 21:52                         ` Swap Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-11-19 16:36             ` Swap Jesse Pollard
2001-11-20 14:51             ` Swap J.A. Magallon
2001-11-20 16:01               ` Swap Wolfgang Rohdewald
2001-11-20 16:06                 ` Swap Remco Post
2001-11-20 16:12                 ` Swap Nick LeRoy
2001-11-20 16:20                 ` Swap Richard B. Johnson
2001-11-20 17:14                   ` Swap Christopher Friesen
2001-11-20 17:40                     ` Swap Richard B. Johnson
2001-11-20 18:14                       ` Swap Nick LeRoy
2001-11-21 10:17                         ` Swap Helge Hafting
2001-11-21 11:17                           ` Swap Alan Cox
2001-11-20 23:20                       ` Swap Luigi Genoni
2001-11-21 16:44                       ` Swap Remco Post
2001-11-20 17:58                     ` Swap Wolfgang Rohdewald
2001-11-20 21:05                     ` Swap Steffen Persvold
2001-11-20 21:18                       ` Swap Mike Fedyk
2001-11-20 21:33                         ` Swap Nick LeRoy
2001-11-20 21:44                           ` Swap Mike Fedyk
2001-11-20 22:00                             ` Swap Nick LeRoy
2001-11-21 16:53                             ` Swap Remco Post
2001-11-20 21:43                         ` Swap Richard B. Johnson
2001-11-20 21:19                       ` Swap Nick LeRoy
2001-11-21 16:48                       ` Swap Remco Post
2001-11-20 20:58               ` Swap Mike Fedyk
2001-11-19 10:03       ` Swap Tim Connors
2001-11-19 10:16         ` Swap Dan Maas
     [not found] <fa.kmf405v.j74f21@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.ns5ugpv.q02sbg@ifi.uio.no>
2001-11-20 21:26   ` Swap Dan Maas
2001-11-20 22:05     ` Swap Rik van Riel
2001-11-20 22:11       ` Swap David S. Miller
2001-11-20 22:19         ` Swap Rik van Riel
2001-11-20 22:34           ` Swap Dan Maas
2001-11-20 23:05             ` Swap Andrew Morton
     [not found]             ` <fa.jc73ejv.1s6e80t@ifi.uio.no>
2001-11-21  1:45               ` Swap Håvard Kvålen
2001-11-21  4:23                 ` Swap Andreas Dilger
2001-11-20 22:23         ` Swap Andrew Morton
2001-11-20 23:01           ` Swap David S. Miller
2001-11-20 23:35             ` Swap Rik van Riel
2001-11-20 23:40               ` Swap David S. Miller
2001-11-21  0:19                 ` Swap Rik van Riel
2001-11-21  0:21                   ` Swap David S. Miller
     [not found] <fa.kb6ct7v.pgku0d@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.k8qdvcv.184ak2l@ifi.uio.no>
2001-11-20 22:46   ` Swap Dan Maas
2001-11-20 23:17     ` Swap Trond Myklebust

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