From: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>
To: "Dieter Nützel" <Dieter.Nuetzel@hamburg.de>
Cc: Linux Kernel List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Unresponiveness of 2.4.16
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 18:13:41 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3C044855.3CF2DCA3@zip.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20011128013129Z281843-17408+21534@vger.kernel.org>
Dieter Nützel wrote:
>
> Andrew Morton wrote:
> > Jens Axboe wrote:
> > >
> > > I agree that the current i/o scheduler has really bad interactive
> > > performance -- at first sight your changes looks mostly like add-on
> > > hacks though.
> >
> > Good hacks, or bad ones?
>
> As I can "see" not so good.
> I've tried "dbench 32" and playing an MP3 with Noatun (KDE-2.2.2) and "saw"
> my reported hiccup since 2.4.7-ac4, as always.
Ah. dbench. The change to balance_dirty_state() absolutely
cripples dbench throughput. And that really doesn't matter,
unless you want to run dbench for a living.
You can get the dbench throughput back by increasing the
async and sync dirty buffer writeback thresholds:
echo 70 64 64 256 30000 3000 80 0 0 > /proc/sys/vm/bdflush
> Noatun stops after 9-10 seconds of the "dbench 32" run and then every few
> seconds, again and again. The hiccup take place more often but for shorter
> times then without your patch.
Probably Noatun needs larger buffers if it is to survive concurrent
dbench. You may see improvement with
elvtune -b N /dev/hdaX
where 8 >= N >= 1.
> System was:
>
> 2.4.16 +
> preempt +
> lock-break-rml-2.4.16-1.patch +
> all ReiserFS patches for 2.4.16
>
> 1 GHz Athlon II
> MSI MS-6167 Rev 1.0B (AMD Irongate C4, without bypass)
> 640 MB PC100-2-2-2 SDRAM
> U160 IBM 18 GB disk
> AHA-2940 UW
>
> > It keeps things localised. It works. It's tunable. It's the best
> > IO scheduler presently available.
>
> Throughput was a little lower ;-)
dbench? Throughput seems to scale with the fourth power of the
amount of RAM you chuck at it :)
> Don't forget to tune max-readahead.
Yes. Readahead is fairly critical and there may be additional fixes
needed in this area.
Someone recently added the /proc/sys/vm/max_readahead (?) tunable.
Beware of this. It only works for device drivers which do not
populate their own readhead table. For IDE, it *looks* like
it works, but it doesn't. For IDE, the only way to alter VM
readahead is via
echo file_readahead:N > /proc/ide/ide0/hda/settings
where N is in kilobytes in 2.4.16 kernels. In earlier kernels
it's kilopages (!).
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-11-28 2:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-11-28 1:31 Unresponiveness of 2.4.16 Dieter Nützel
2001-11-28 2:13 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2001-11-28 2:34 ` Mike Fedyk
2001-11-28 2:48 ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-28 20:21 ` Roger Larsson
2001-11-28 3:53 ` Dieter Nützel
[not found] ` <200111280353.fAS3rEB05638@zero.tech9.net>
2001-11-28 4:14 ` Robert Love
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-11-28 19:42 Torrey Hoffman
2001-11-28 20:51 ` Dieter Nützel
2001-11-28 18:56 Torrey Hoffman
2001-11-28 19:31 ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-28 0:33 Torrey Hoffman
2001-11-28 0:48 ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-28 18:09 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-11-28 19:38 ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-27 9:56 willy tarreau
2001-11-27 10:57 ` Heinz Diehl
2001-11-26 22:02 Nathan G. Grennan
2001-11-26 22:17 ` Alan Cox
2001-11-26 23:34 ` Nicolas Pitre
2001-11-27 0:05 ` Steve Lion
2001-11-27 9:12 ` Ahmed Masud
2001-11-27 17:12 ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-27 20:31 ` Mike Fedyk
2001-11-27 20:57 ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-27 21:19 ` Martin Eriksson
2001-11-27 21:24 ` Mike Fedyk
2001-11-28 18:24 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-11-28 18:57 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-11-28 20:31 ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-28 20:56 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-11-28 21:12 ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-28 20:04 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-11-28 21:26 ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-26 23:59 ` Rik van Riel
2001-11-27 0:36 ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-27 0:46 ` Rik van Riel
2001-11-27 4:38 ` Mike Fedyk
2001-11-27 4:45 ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-27 1:45 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-11-26 22:21 ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-27 7:42 ` Jens Axboe
2001-11-27 7:58 ` Mike Fedyk
2001-11-27 8:01 ` Jens Axboe
2001-11-27 8:31 ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-27 8:38 ` Jens Axboe
2001-11-26 22:44 ` Lincoln Dale
2001-11-27 4:34 ` GOTO Masanori
2001-11-27 0:44 ` Lost Logic
2001-11-27 0:57 ` Lost Logic
2001-11-27 3:49 ` Sean Elble
2001-11-27 3:56 ` Doug Ledford
2001-11-27 4:00 ` Sean Elble
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