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From: Padraig Brady <padraig@antefacto.com>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: horrible disk thorughput on itanium
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 18:33:16 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3C110B6C.9070709@antefacto.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <p73n10v6spi.fsf@amdsim2.suse.de> <Pine.LNX.4.33.0112070941330.8465-100000@penguin.transmeta.com> <20011207185847.A20876@wotan.suse.de>

Andi Kleen wrote:

>>You can be thread-safe without sucking dead baby donkeys through a straw.
>>I already mentioned two possible ways to fix it so that you have locking
>>when you need to, and no locking when you don't.
>>
> 
> Your proposals sound rather dangerous. They would silently break recompiled
> threaded programs that need the locking and don't use -D__REENTRANT (most
> people do not seem to use it).


I would worry about threaded progs that don't -D_REENTRANT as
they are broken.

> I doubt the possible pain from that is 
> worth it for speeding up an basically obsolete interface like putc. 
> 
> i.e. if someone wants speed they definitely shouldn't use putc()

It's not just putc, it's all of stdio.

Padraig.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-12-07 18:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <p73r8q86lpn.fsf@amdsim2.suse.de.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.33.0112070710120.747-100000@mikeg.weiden.de.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]   ` <9upmqm$7p4$1@penguin.transmeta.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2001-12-07 13:54     ` horrible disk thorughput on itanium Andi Kleen
2001-12-07 14:20       ` Padraig Brady
2001-12-07 16:14       ` Richard Gooch
2001-12-07 17:18         ` Robert Love
2001-12-07 17:40           ` Richard Gooch
2001-12-07 17:48             ` Robert Love
2001-12-07 17:45       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-07 17:58         ` Andi Kleen
2001-12-07 18:14           ` Michael Poole
2001-12-07 18:35             ` Padraig Brady
2001-12-07 21:22               ` Michael Poole
2001-12-07 21:37                 ` Padraig Brady
2001-12-07 22:26                   ` Michael Poole
2001-12-07 18:15           ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-07 18:41             ` Padraig Brady
2001-12-07 18:33           ` Padraig Brady [this message]
2001-12-07 20:44         ` Greg Hennessy
2001-12-07 21:37           ` Marco Colombo
2001-12-07 20:42       ` David S. Miller
     [not found]         ` <3C112DE4.60206@antefacto.com>
     [not found]           ` <20011207.130316.39156883.davem@redhat.com>
2001-12-09  1:19             ` [OT] fputc vs putc " Tom Vier
2001-12-09  1:33               ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-12-09  9:27                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-09 19:14                   ` Tom Vier
2001-12-09 22:15                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-07  6:42 Dan Kegel
     [not found] <20011206110713.A8404@cox.rr.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found] ` <3C0FD955.4510B738@zip.com.au.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2001-12-06 22:13   ` Andi Kleen
2001-12-07  6:11     ` Mike Galbraith
2001-12-07  6:15       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-07 12:32         ` Greg Hennessy
2001-12-07 17:57           ` Marco Colombo
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-12-06 16:07 Greg Hennessy
2001-12-06 16:17 ` Arjan van de Ven
2001-12-06 20:47 ` Andrew Morton
2001-12-09 23:13 ` Kurt Garloff

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