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From: Dan Kegel <dank@kegel.com>
To: mingo@elte.hu
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>, bcrl <bcrl@redhat.com>,
	billh <billh@tierra.ucsd.edu>, torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-aio <linux-aio@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: aio
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 08:32:28 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3C22129C.4A4E2269@kegel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0112201127400.2656-100000@localhost.localdomain>

Ingo Molnar wrote:

> it's not a fair comparison. The system was set up to not exhibit any async
> IO load. So a pure, atomic sendfile() outperformed TUX slightly, where TUX
> did something slightly more complex (and more RFC-conform as well - see
> Date: caching in X12 for example). Not something i'd call a proof - this
> simply works around the async IO interface. (which RT-signal driven,
> fasync-helped async IO interface, as phttpd has proven, is not only hard
> to program and is unrobust, it also performs *very badly*.)

Proper wrapper code can make them (almost) easy to program with.
See http://www.kegel.com/dkftpbench/doc/Poller_sigio.html for an example
of a wrapper that automatically handles the fallback to poll() on overflow.
Using this wrapper I wrote ftp clients and servers which use a thin wrapper
api that lets the user choose from select, poll, /dev/poll, kqueue/kevent, and RT signals
at runtime.

That said, I think that using the RT signal queue is just plain the
wrong way to go, and I can't wait for better approaches to make it
into the standard kernel someday.

- Dan

  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-12-20 16:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20011218020456.A11541@redhat.com>
2001-12-18 16:50 ` Scheduler ( was: Just a second ) Linus Torvalds
2001-12-18 16:56   ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-18 17:18     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-18 19:04       ` Alan Cox
2001-12-18 21:02         ` Larry McVoy
2001-12-18 21:14           ` David S. Miller
2001-12-18 21:17             ` Larry McVoy
2001-12-18 21:19               ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-18 21:30               ` David S. Miller
2001-12-18 21:18           ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-19 17:44           ` IRC (was: Scheduler) Daniel Phillips
2001-12-19 17:51             ` Larry McVoy
2001-12-19 18:24               ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-19 18:19             ` M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
2001-12-19 18:27               ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-19 18:40               ` J Sloan
2001-12-19 16:50         ` Scheduler ( was: Just a second ) Daniel Phillips
     [not found]           ` <Pine.LNX.4.33.0112190859050.1872-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>
2001-12-19 18:57             ` aio Ben LaHaise
2001-12-19 19:29               ` aio Dan Kegel
2001-12-20  4:04                 ` aio Benjamin LaHaise
2001-12-19 20:09               ` aio Daniel Phillips
2001-12-19 20:21               ` aio Davide Libenzi
     [not found]               ` <mailman.1008792601.3391.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2001-12-19 20:23                 ` aio Pete Zaitcev
2001-12-20  0:13               ` aio David S. Miller
2001-12-20  0:21                 ` aio Benjamin LaHaise
2001-12-20  0:36                   ` aio Andrew Morton
2001-12-20  0:55                     ` aio H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-20  0:47                   ` aio Davide Libenzi
2001-12-20  1:16                 ` aio Bill Huey
2001-12-20  1:20                   ` aio David S. Miller
2001-12-20  2:26                     ` aio Bill Huey
2001-12-20  2:45                       ` aio David S. Miller
2001-12-19 18:57                         ` aio John Heil
2001-12-20  3:06                           ` aio David S. Miller
2001-12-19 19:30                             ` aio John Heil
2001-12-20  5:29                               ` aio David S. Miller
2001-12-20  3:21                             ` aio Bill Huey
2001-12-27  9:36                               ` aio Martin Dalecki
2001-12-20  3:07                         ` aio Bill Huey
2001-12-20  3:13                           ` aio David S. Miller
2001-12-20  3:47                             ` aio Benjamin LaHaise
2001-12-20  5:39                               ` aio David S. Miller
2001-12-20  5:58                                 ` aio Benjamin LaHaise
2001-12-20  6:00                                   ` aio David S. Miller
2001-12-20  6:46                                     ` aio Mike Castle
2001-12-20  6:55                                       ` aio Robert Love
2001-12-20  7:13                                         ` aio Mike Castle
2001-12-20  7:01                                       ` aio David S. Miller
2001-12-20  7:27                                 ` aio Daniel Phillips
     [not found]                                 ` <Pine.LNX.4.33.0112201127400.2656-100000@localhost.localdomain>
2001-12-20 11:49                                   ` aio William Lee Irwin III
2001-12-20 16:32                                   ` Dan Kegel [this message]
2001-12-20 18:05                                     ` aio Davide Libenzi
2001-12-20 21:45                                   ` aio Lincoln Dale
2001-12-20 21:59                                     ` aio Linus Torvalds
2001-12-24 11:44                                       ` aio Gerold Jury
2001-12-20 23:02                                     ` aio Lincoln Dale
2001-12-21 17:24                               ` aio Alan Cox
2001-12-21 17:16                                 ` aio Benjamin LaHaise
2001-12-23  5:35                                   ` aio Bill Huey
2001-12-20 14:38                             ` aio Luigi Genoni
2001-12-20 17:26                             ` aio Henning Schmiedehausen
2001-12-20 20:04                               ` aio M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
2001-12-20 23:53                               ` aio David S. Miller
2001-12-21  0:28                                 ` Offtopic Java/C# [Re: aio] Bill Huey
     [not found]                         ` <mailman.1008817860.10606.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2001-12-20  5:16                           ` aio Pete Zaitcev
2001-12-20 16:16                         ` aio Dan Kegel
2001-12-21 11:44                           ` aio Gerold Jury
2001-12-21 13:48                             ` aio Ingo Molnar
2001-12-21 15:27                               ` aio Gerold Jury
2001-12-24 11:08                                 ` aio Gerold Jury
2001-12-20 17:24                         ` aio Henning Schmiedehausen
2001-12-20  2:37                     ` aio Cameron Simpson
2001-12-20  2:47                       ` aio David S. Miller
2001-12-20  2:52                         ` aio Cameron Simpson
2001-12-20  2:58                           ` aio David S. Miller
2001-12-20  5:47                             ` aio Linus Torvalds
2001-12-20  5:57                               ` aio David S. Miller
2001-12-20  5:59                                 ` aio Benjamin LaHaise
2001-12-20  6:02                                   ` aio David S. Miller
2001-12-20  6:07                                     ` aio Benjamin LaHaise
2001-12-20  6:12                                       ` aio David S. Miller
2001-12-20  6:23                                         ` aio Linus Torvalds
2001-12-20 10:18                                           ` aio Ingo Molnar
2001-12-20 18:20                                             ` aio Robert Love
2001-12-20 22:30                                               ` aio Cameron Simpson
2001-12-20 22:46                                                 ` aio Benjamin LaHaise
2001-12-20  6:09                                     ` aio Linus Torvalds
2001-12-20 17:28                                       ` aio Suparna Bhattacharya
     [not found]                     ` <mailman.1008816001.10138.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2001-12-20  5:07                       ` aio Pete Zaitcev
2001-12-20  5:10                         ` aio Cameron Simpson
2001-12-21 17:28                     ` aio Alan Cox
2001-12-23  5:46                       ` aio Bill Huey
2001-12-23  6:34                         ` aio Dan Kegel
2001-12-23 18:43                           ` aio Davide Libenzi
2001-12-26 20:42                         ` Java and Flam^H^H^H^H AIO (was: aio) Daniel Phillips
2001-12-18 19:11       ` Scheduler ( was: Just a second ) Mike Galbraith
2001-12-18 19:15       ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-18 22:32         ` in defense of the linux-kernel mailing list Ingo Molnar
2001-12-18 17:55   ` Scheduler ( was: Just a second ) Davide Libenzi
2001-12-18 19:43   ` Alexander Viro
2001-12-20  2:56 aio Mikael Pettersson

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