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From: J Sloan <jjs@lexus.com>
To: "Dieter Nützel" <Dieter.Nuetzel@hamburg.de>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Linux Kernel List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Robert Love <rml@tech9.net>
Subject: Re: Linux 2.4.17 vs 2.2.19 vs rml new VM
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 15:49:44 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3C339C98.8080207@lexus.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020102231431Z287173-13997+212@vger.kernel.org>

Well it is possible that with the several patches
you mention that I might see results similar to
what I now see with the low-latency patch.

However -

The preempt patch does NOT play well with the
tux webserver, which I am using. So, preempt is
not an option for me until and unless it is cleaned
up to allow cooperation with tux.

tux and low-latency get along just fine.

cu

jjs

Dieter Nützel wrote:

>On Tuesday, 2. January 2002 20:50, Alan cox wrote:
>
>>>I find the low latency patch makes a noticeable
>>>difference in e.g. q3a and rtcw - OTOH I have
>>>not been able to discern any tangible difference
>>>from the stock kernel when using -preempt.
>>>
>>The measurements I've seen put lowlatency ahead of pre-empt in quality
>>of results. Since low latency fixes some of the locked latencies it might
>>be interesting for someone with time to benchmark
>>
>>       vanilla
>>       low latency
>>       pre-empt
>>       both together
>>
>
>Don't forget that you have to use preempt-kernel-rml + lock-break-rml to 
>achieve the same (more) than the latency patch.
>
>Taken from Robert's page and running it for some weeks, now.
>
>[-]
>Lock breaking for the Preemptible Kernel
>lock-break-rml-2.4.15-1
>lock-break-rml-2.4.16-3
>lock-break-rml-2.4.17-2
>lock-break-rml-2.4.18-pre1-1
>README
>ChangeLog
>With the preemptible kernel, the need for explicit scheduling points, like in 
>the low-latency patches, are no more. However, since we can not preempt while 
>locks are held, we can take a similar model as low-latency and "break" (drop 
>and immediately reacquire) locks to improve system response. The trick is 
>finding when and where we can safely break the locks (periods of quiescence) 
>and how to safely recover. The majority of the lock breaking is in the VM and 
>VFS code. This patch is for users with strong system response requirements 
>affected by the worst-case latencies caused by long-held locks.
>[-]
>
>Regards,
>	Dieter
>



  reply	other threads:[~2002-01-02 23:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-01-02 23:14 Linux 2.4.17 vs 2.2.19 vs rml new VM Dieter Nützel
2002-01-02 23:49 ` J Sloan [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-01-02  9:33 brian
2002-01-02 10:07 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-02 12:25 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-02 19:07 ` J Sloan
2002-01-02 20:50   ` Alan Cox

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