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From: Brian Gerst <bgerst@didntduck.org>
To: esr@thyrsus.com
Cc: Dave Jones <davej@suse.de>, Lionel Bouton <Lionel.Bouton@free.fr>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Linux Kernel List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: ISA slot detection on PCI systems?
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 23:15:04 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3C33DAC8.E6872F16@didntduck.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020102220333.A26713@thyrsus.com> <Pine.LNX.4.33.0201030420160.6449-100000@Appserv.suse.de> <20020102221845.A27252@thyrsus.com> <3C33D1B0.4DFDF76E@didntduck.org> <20020102223523.A27644@thyrsus.com>

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"Eric S. Raymond" wrote:
> 
> Brian Gerst <bgerst@didntduck.org>:
> > > Not in this case.  If the DMI read fails, the worst-case result is the
> > > user sees some ISA extra questions.
> >
> > No, the worst case is if the DMI read says no ISA slots when there
> > really are some, and the user misses a driver that he needs.
> 
> Nobody has told me this is a real failure case yet.  To cause a problem,
> the situation would have to be that DMI read fails to detect a card in
> use in an ISA slot.  It's OK if it reports no slots when all slots are
> empty.

Well, I just popped in an old 3com 509TP network card (non-PnP) into my
main box and dmidecode still failed to show the single ISA slot, only 4
PCI and 1 AGP.

-- 

						Brian Gerst

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SMBIOS 2.3 present.
DMI 2.3 present.
26 structures occupying 1912 bytes.
DMI table at 0x000F04F0.
Handle 0x0000
	DMI type 0, 20 bytes.
	BIOS Information Block
		Vendor: American Megatrends Inc.        
		Version: 62710                           
		Release: 07/15/97                        
		BIOS base: 0xF0000
		ROM size: 192K
		Capabilities:
			Flags: 0x000000007FCBDE90
Handle 0x0001
	DMI type 1, 25 bytes.
	System Information Block
		Vendor:                                 
		Product:                                 
		Version: 0000000                         
		Serial Number:                                 
Handle 0x0002
	DMI type 2, 8 bytes.
	Board Information Block
		Vendor: FIC                             
		Product: SD11                            
		Version: 1.x                             
		Serial Number: 00000000                        
Handle 0x0003
	DMI type 3, 17 bytes.
	Chassis Information Block
		Vendor:                                 
		Chassis Type: Desktop
		Version: 1.0                             
		Serial Number: 0000000                         
		Asset Tag:                                 
Handle 0x0004
	DMI type 4, 32 bytes.
	Processor
		Socket Designation: Slot-A                          
		Processor Type: Central Processor
		Processor Family: K5 Family
		Processor Manufacturer: AMD             
		Processor Version: Athlon(tm)      
Handle 0x0005
	DMI type 7, 19 bytes.
	Cache
		Socket: L1 Cache                        
		L1 Internal Cache: write-back
		L1 Cache Size: 128K
		L1 Cache Maximum: 128K
		L1 Cache Type: Synchronous 
Handle 0x0006
	DMI type 7, 19 bytes.
	Cache
		Socket: L2 Cache                        
		L2 Internal Cache: write-back
		L2 Cache Size: 8192K
		L2 Cache Maximum: 512K
		L2 Cache Type: Synchronous 
Handle 0x0007
	DMI type 5, 22 bytes.
	Memory Controller
Handle 0x0008
	DMI type 6, 12 bytes.
	Memory Bank
		Socket: DIMM1                           
		Banks: 0 1
		Speed: 15nS
		Type: 
		Installed Size: 128Mbyte (Double sided)
		Enabled Size: 128Mbyte (Double sided)
Handle 0x0009
	DMI type 6, 12 bytes.
	Memory Bank
		Socket: DIMM2                           
		Banks: 2 3
		Speed: 15nS
		Type: 
		Installed Size: 256Mbyte (Double sided)
		Enabled Size: 256Mbyte (Double sided)
Handle 0x000A
	DMI type 6, 12 bytes.
	Memory Bank
		Socket: DIMM3                           
		Banks: 4 5
		Speed: 15nS
		Type: 
		Installed Size: 128Mbyte (Double sided)
		Enabled Size: 128Mbyte (Double sided)
Handle 0x000B
	DMI type 9, 13 bytes.
	Card Slot
		Slot: PCI1                            
		Type: 32bit PCI 
		Status: Available.
		Slot Features: 3.3v Shared 
Handle 0x000C
	DMI type 9, 13 bytes.
	Card Slot
		Slot: PCI2                            
		Type: 32bit PCI 
		Status: In use.
		Slot Features: 3.3v Shared 
Handle 0x000D
	DMI type 9, 13 bytes.
	Card Slot
		Slot: PCI3                            
		Type: 32bit PCI 
		Status: Available.
		Slot Features: 3.3v Shared 
Handle 0x000E
	DMI type 9, 13 bytes.
	Card Slot
		Slot: PCI4                            
		Type: 32bit PCI 
		Status: In use.
		Slot Features: 3.3v Shared 
Handle 0x000F
	DMI type 9, 13 bytes.
	Card Slot
		Slot: AGP                             
		Type: 32bit AGP 4x 
		Status: In use.
		Slot Features: 3.3v Shared 
Handle 0x0010
	DMI type 8, 9 bytes.
	Port Connector
		Internal Designator: COM Port                        
		Internal Connector Type: None
		External Designator: Serial Port A                   
		External Connector Type: DB-9 pin male
		Port Type: Serial Port 16650A Compatible
Handle 0x0011
	DMI type 8, 9 bytes.
	Port Connector
		Internal Designator: COM Port                        
		Internal Connector Type: None
		External Designator: Serial Port B                   
		External Connector Type: DB-9 pin male
		Port Type: Serial Port 16650A Compatible
Handle 0x0012
	DMI type 8, 9 bytes.
	Port Connector
		Internal Designator: LPT Port                        
		Internal Connector Type: None
		External Designator: Parallel Port                   
		External Connector Type: DB-25 pin female
		Port Type: Parallel Port ECP/EPP
Handle 0x0013
	DMI type 8, 9 bytes.
	Port Connector
		Internal Designator: Keyboard                        
		Internal Connector Type: None
		External Designator: Keyboard                        
		External Connector Type: PS/2
		Port Type: Keyboard Port
Handle 0x0014
	DMI type 8, 9 bytes.
	Port Connector
		Internal Designator: Mouse                           
		Internal Connector Type: None
		External Designator: PS/2 Mouse                      
		External Connector Type: PS/2
		Port Type: Mouse Port
Handle 0x0015
	DMI type 8, 9 bytes.
	Port Connector
		Internal Designator: Floppy                          
		Internal Connector Type: On Board Floppy
		External Designator: Floppy                          
		External Connector Type: None
		Port Type: None
Handle 0x0016
	DMI type 8, 9 bytes.
	Port Connector
		Internal Designator: Primary IDE                     
		Internal Connector Type: On Board IDE
		External Designator: IDE-1                           
		External Connector Type: None
		Port Type: None
Handle 0x0017
	DMI type 8, 9 bytes.
	Port Connector
		Internal Designator: Secondary IDE                   
		Internal Connector Type: On Board IDE
		External Designator: IDE-2                           
		External Connector Type: None
		Port Type: None
Handle 0x0018
	DMI type 8, 9 bytes.
	Port Connector
		Internal Designator: USB Port                        
		Internal Connector Type: None
		External Designator: USB                             
		External Connector Type: Access Bus (USB)
		Port Type: USB
Handle 0x0019
	DMI type 13, 22 bytes.
	BIOS Language Information

  reply	other threads:[~2002-01-03  4:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 187+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-01-02 20:15 ISA slot detection on PCI systems? Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-02 20:45 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-01-02 20:46 ` Brian Gerst
2002-01-02 20:59 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-02 20:46   ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-02 21:13     ` Dave Jones
2002-01-02 21:19     ` Alan Cox
2002-01-02 21:04       ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-02 22:34         ` Alan Cox
2002-01-03  9:26         ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-01-03  8:44     ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-01-03 12:46     ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-04 15:04       ` Kai Henningsen
2002-01-02 21:00   ` Dave Jones
2002-01-02 21:23     ` Bill Nottingham
2002-01-02 21:13       ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-02 21:31         ` Dave Jones
2002-01-02 21:30           ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-02 21:48             ` Dave Jones
2002-01-02 21:47               ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-02 22:12                 ` Dave Jones
2002-01-02 22:08                   ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-02 22:39                     ` Alan Cox
2002-01-02 22:24                       ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-02 22:50                         ` Alan Cox
2002-01-02 22:34                           ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-02 23:09                             ` Alan Cox
2002-01-02 23:09                               ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-02 23:52                                 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-02 23:56                                 ` Mike Castle
2002-01-03  0:00                                   ` Dave Jones
2002-01-03  0:37                                     ` Mike Castle
2002-01-03  0:58                                       ` Dave Jones
2002-01-03 13:35                                         ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-03 13:46                                           ` Dave Jones
2002-01-03 16:42                                             ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-03 18:06                                               ` Alex
2002-01-03 18:16                                                 ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-03 18:22                                                 ` Patrick Mochel
2002-01-03 22:26                                                   ` Alan Cox
2002-01-03 22:20                                                     ` Patrick Mochel
2002-01-03 22:31                                                       ` Alan Cox
2002-01-03 18:41                                                 ` Gábor Lénárt
2002-01-03 22:24                                                   ` Alan Cox
2002-01-07 21:56                                                 ` Mark H. Wood
2002-01-03 13:10                             ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-02 22:53                         ` Mike Castle
2002-01-02 23:16                           ` Alan Cox
2002-01-02 23:31                             ` Dave Jones
2002-01-02 23:04                         ` Lionel Bouton
2002-01-03  3:49                           ` Cameron Simpson
2002-01-03  4:03                             ` Dave Jones
2002-01-03  6:46                             ` Mike Castle
2002-01-03 12:35                             ` Alan Cox
2002-01-03 12:39                               ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-01-05  7:03                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-05 17:16                                   ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-01-05 17:34                                     ` Dave Jones
2002-01-05 20:29                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-06  1:19                                         ` Dave Jones
2002-01-06 12:19                                           ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2002-01-06 13:16                                             ` Dave Jones
2002-01-06 15:26                                               ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2002-01-06 18:20                                                 ` Dave Jones
2002-01-07 13:35                                                   ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2002-01-06 21:03                                   ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-01-06 22:16                                     ` Alan Cox
2002-01-07  7:42                                       ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-01-03 16:00                               ` Cryto verification of Kernel against Trojan code?? Timothy Covell
2002-01-03 21:58                               ` ISA slot detection on PCI systems? Cameron Simpson
2002-01-03 21:15                             ` Lionel Bouton
2002-01-03 21:26                               ` Dave Jones
2002-01-05  6:58                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-02 22:46                     ` Lionel Bouton
2002-01-02 22:51                       ` Dave Jones
2002-01-02 22:48                         ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-02 23:10                           ` Dave Jones
2002-01-03  2:10                             ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-03  2:44                               ` Dave Jones
2002-01-03  3:03                                 ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-03  3:26                                   ` Dave Jones
2002-01-03  3:18                                     ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-03  3:36                                       ` Brian Gerst
2002-01-03  3:35                                         ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-03  4:15                                           ` Brian Gerst [this message]
2002-01-03  4:15                                             ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-03  4:27                                               ` Brian Gerst
2002-01-03  4:30                                                 ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-03  3:39                                       ` Dave Jones
2002-01-03  3:34                                   ` Brian Gerst
2002-01-03 14:37                                     ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-04  7:09                                     ` [OT] " Paul Duncan
2002-01-03 11:25                                   ` Henrik Hovi
2002-01-05  7:09                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-03 14:31                                   ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-03 15:00                                     ` Jesse Pollard
2002-01-03 15:15                                     ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-01-04 15:30                                       ` Kai Henningsen
2002-01-03  5:30                                 ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-03  5:42                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2002-01-03  5:55                                     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-01-03  5:46                                   ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-03  9:14                                 ` David Woodhouse
2002-01-03  9:09                                   ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-03 12:14                                     ` Alan Cox
2002-01-03 12:34                                       ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-01-04 18:28                                         ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-01-04 19:04                                           ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-01-04 19:05                                             ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-04 19:21                                               ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-01-04 19:41                                                 ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-04 20:09                                                   ` Dave Jones
2002-01-08 12:52                                                     ` Rob Landley
2002-01-04 20:19                                                   ` David Weinehall
2002-01-04 20:30                                                     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-01-04 20:36                                                       ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-05  7:12                                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-04 20:20                                                   ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-01-04 20:44                                                     ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-04 19:45                                               ` Dave Jones
2002-01-04 19:50                                               ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-01-04 19:54                                                 ` Dave Jones
2002-01-04 20:24                                                   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-01-04 20:31                                                     ` Dave Jones
2002-01-04 20:33                                                       ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-04 20:56                                                         ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-01-04 20:57                                                         ` Dave Jones
2002-01-04 20:49                                                           ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-04 21:08                                                             ` Dave Jones
2002-01-04 20:59                                                               ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-04 21:18                                                                 ` Dave Jones
2002-01-04 21:23                                                                 ` Patrick Mochel
2002-01-05  0:13                                                                 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-04 21:17                                                               ` David Woodhouse
2002-01-04 21:04                                                         ` Charles Cazabon
2002-01-05 17:28                                                         ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-04 19:36                                             ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-01-04 19:45                                               ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-01-04 20:08                                                 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-01-03 16:52                                     ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-03 17:01                                       ` Dave Jones
2002-01-03 17:27                                         ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-03  9:24                                   ` David Woodhouse
2002-01-03 14:12                               ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-03  3:07                             ` Greg Hennessy
2002-01-03  9:08                             ` David Woodhouse
2002-01-03  9:03                               ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-03 12:20                                 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-03 12:07                                   ` BALBIR SINGH
2002-01-03 12:40                                     ` Alan Cox
2002-01-03 21:44                                       ` Lionel Bouton
2002-01-03 22:17                                         ` David Weinehall
2002-01-04 18:41                                           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-01-03 22:36                                         ` Alan Cox
2002-01-04 12:10                                         ` Alex
2002-01-04 12:20                                           ` Dave Jones
2002-01-04 12:22                                             ` Alex
2002-01-04 12:30                                               ` Dave Jones
2002-01-04 12:47                                                 ` Alex
2002-01-03 12:56                                   ` Urban Widmark
2002-01-03  9:19                               ` David Woodhouse
2002-01-03  9:12                                 ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-03  9:31                                 ` David Woodhouse
2002-01-03 10:34                             ` Kai Henningsen
2002-01-03 14:42                               ` Dave Jones
2002-01-04 15:39                                 ` Kai Henningsen
2002-01-02 23:15                           ` Alan Cox
2002-01-02 23:07                             ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-02 23:33                               ` Lionel Bouton
2002-01-02 23:37                                 ` Dave Jones
2002-01-03  2:19                                   ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-03  2:17                                 ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-02 23:19                           ` Mike Castle
2002-01-02 23:23                           ` Lionel Bouton
2002-01-02 23:44                             ` Mike Castle
2002-01-03  0:11                               ` Lionel Bouton
2002-01-03  2:20                             ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-05  7:05                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-05  6:56                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-03 13:00                 ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-02 21:59               ` Mike Castle
2002-01-02 22:08             ` Alan Cox
2002-01-02 21:22       ` Dave Jones
2002-01-02 21:28 ` Christian Koenig
2002-01-02 22:04   ` Timothy Covell
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-01-04  9:56 Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2002-01-04 10:29 ` Alan Cox

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