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From: "François Cami" <stilgar2k@wanadoo.fr>
To: mingo@elte.hu
Cc: Mike Kravetz <kravetz@us.ibm.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Anton Blanchard <anton@samba.org>,
	george anzinger <george@mvista.com>,
	Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Subject: Re: [patch] O(1) scheduler, -G1, 2.5.2-pre10, 2.4.17 (fwd)
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 22:42:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3C3F5C43.7060300@wanadoo.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0201110142160.12174-100000@localhost.localdomain>

Ingo Molnar wrote:

> On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Mike Kravetz wrote:
> 
> 
>>If I run 3 cpu-hog tasks on a 2 CPU system, then 1 task will get an
>>entire CPU while the other 2 tasks share the other CPU (easily
>>verified by a simple test program). On previous versions of the
>>scheduler 'balancing' this load was achieved by the global nature of
>>time slices. No task was given a new time slice until the time slices
>>of all runnable tasks had expired.  In the current scheduler, the
>>decision to replenish time slices is made at a local (pre-CPU) level.
>>I assume the load balancing code should take care of the above
>>workload?  OR is this the behavior we desire? [...]
>>
> 
> Arguably this is the most extreme situation - every other distribution
> (2:3, 3:4) is much less problematic. Will this cause problems? We could
> make the fairness-balancer more 'sharp' so that it will oscillate the
> length of the two runqueues at a slow pace, but it's still caching loss.
> 
> 
>>We certainly have optimal cache use.
>>
> 
> indeed. The question is, should we migrate processes around just to get
> 100% fairness in 'top' output? The (implicit) cost of a task migration
> (caused by the destruction & rebuilding of cache state) can be 10
> milliseconds easily on a system with big caches.
> 
> 	Ingo


I do vote for optimal cache use. Using squid (200MB process in my case)
can be much faster if squid stays on the same CPU for a while, instead
of hopping from one CPU to another (dual PII350 machine).

François Cami




  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-01-11 21:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-01-10 14:19 [patch] O(1) scheduler, -G1, 2.5.2-pre10, 2.4.17 (fwd) Ingo Molnar
2002-01-10 18:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-01-10 20:11   ` george anzinger
2002-01-10 23:54     ` Ingo Molnar
2002-01-10 23:22   ` Ingo Molnar
2002-01-11  0:01   ` Ingo Molnar
2002-01-10 20:01 ` Robert Love
2002-01-10 23:44   ` Ingo Molnar
2002-01-10 21:57 ` Mike Kravetz
2002-01-11  0:48   ` Ingo Molnar
2002-01-10 23:04     ` Davide Libenzi
2002-01-11 21:42     ` François Cami [this message]
2002-01-11 21:46       ` Timothy Covell
     [not found]         ` <1010814327.2018.5.camel@phantasy>
2002-01-12 11:48           ` François Cami
2002-01-12 16:26           ` Timothy Covell
2002-01-12 20:00             ` Robert Love
2002-01-12 20:44           ` Davide Libenzi
2002-01-12 20:44             ` Timothy Covell
2002-01-12 23:56             ` Robert Love
2002-01-13  6:59             ` Rusty Russell
2002-01-14  8:40         ` Marian Jancar
2002-01-11 21:53       ` Mark Hahn
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-01-13 20:30 Dieter Nützel

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