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From: Giacomo Catenazzi <cate@debian.org>
To: Marco Colombo <marco@esi.it>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Aunt Tillie builds a kernel (was Re: ISA hardware discovery --the elegant solution)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 16:01:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3C444441.3080608@debian.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0201151517550.11441-100000@Megathlon.ESI>



Marco Colombo wrote:

>>
>>The main discussion was in kbuild-devel list.
>>
> 
> Uh, my mailbox hurts just at the thought of even more posting on the suject.
> 


In kbuild: less people, less traffic, more discussion, less flames

> Kernel tarballs are for hackers. Marcelo can't test any configuration
> the autoconfigurator can produce. So basically it means an untested
> kernel. Running untested kernel isn't a job for Joe User, and never
> will be.


Also what are the stable series?

But you think your distribution test the kernel in all possible
use? With all possible hardware configuration?
Autoconfiguration will configure a compile and booting kernel.
(but on old machine). Neither vendor can assure you that the kernel
will work for a particolar permutation of hardware, and mainly
it is indipendent from configuration.


> Vendors and kernel developers have different goals. That horrible hack
> that fixes some bug or misbehavior fits fine into a vendor kernel, and
> has no place in Marcelo's tree; the same for that C++ written, cross OS
> crap driver for hardware XYZ. Users want it, vendors provide it.
> Different goals, different targets.


Change distribution. In Debian/unstable developers and distribution are
hardly linked!
Why do you need someone in the 'layer' between developers
and user?


> Autoconfiguration is nice. But please move the topic elsewhere.


Right. Let stop it


	giacomo


  reply	other threads:[~2002-01-15 15:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <fa.g54h1nv.126slpt@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.k72pe6v.1tmgn1a@ifi.uio.no>
2002-01-15 13:17   ` Aunt Tillie builds a kernel (was Re: ISA hardware discovery --the elegant solution) Giacomo Catenazzi
2002-01-15 14:50     ` Marco Colombo
2002-01-15 15:01       ` Giacomo Catenazzi [this message]
2002-01-15 15:47         ` Marco Colombo
2002-01-15 10:40 Zwane Mwaikambo
2002-01-15 11:35 ` Reid Hekman
2002-01-16 15:32   ` Bill Davidsen
2002-01-21 14:55   ` Mark H. Wood

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