Re: hangs using opengl

Re: hangs using opengl

[Nick Martens]

Frank Dekervel wrote:

> op donderdag 17 januari 2002 18:09 , schreef Nick Martens  in 
> <3C4712DB.6090201@kabelfoon.nl> :
> 
> 
>>Hi,
>>I'm having some trouble with my box, at the time that i start an opengl
>>game in X sometimes the load of my machine gets really high (not in all
>>games Quake III runs just fine). when i try to move my mouse it won't
>>move, when i press CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE nothing happens and I have to
>>reset my system. Is this kernel related or just an opengl problen ? if
>>it's kernel related I am running kernel 2.4.5 And my video-card is an
>>NVIDIA geforce 2 pro 450 from gainward. before this card i had a diamond
>>viper 770 ultra and the same problem occured. If this is not a kernel
>>issue: where can i go to solve this ????
>>
>>Greets Nick
>>
>>

Ok thanx all Another thing when it crashes the hd load seems extremely 
high. system config is Intel P3 1ghz, intel 815 chipset, kernel 2.4.5 
,xf86 4.1, kde 2.2

i also checked my logs:
/var/log/debug contains:

Jan 17 20:15:09 nick kernel: CPU: Before vendor init, caps: 0387f9ff 
00000000 00000000, vendor = 0
Jan 17 20:15:09 nick kernel: CPU: After vendor init, caps: 0387f9ff 
00000000 00000000 00000000
Jan 17 20:15:09 nick kernel: CPU:     After generic, caps: 0383f9ff 
00000000 00000000 00000000
Jan 17 20:15:09 nick kernel: CPU:             Common caps: 0383f9ff 
00000000 00000000 00000000
Jan 17 20:15:23 nick kernel: agpgart: unsupported bridge
Jan 17 20:15:23 nick kernel: agpgart: no supported devices found.

Re: hangs using opengl

[Reid Hekman]

On Thu, 2002-01-17 at 13:38, Nick Martens wrote:
> 
> Ok thanx all Another thing when it crashes the hd load seems extremely 
> high. system config is Intel P3 1ghz, intel 815 chipset, kernel 2.4.5 
> ,xf86 4.1, kde 2.2
... 
> i also checked my logs:
> /var/log/debug contains:
...
> Jan 17 20:15:23 nick kernel: agpgart: unsupported bridge
> Jan 17 20:15:23 nick kernel: agpgart: no supported devices found.

You need a newer kernel for i815 agp support. There have been many
improvements since 2.4.5, but if it works otherwise and you're not
affected by the security issues, knock yourself out. If you don't go the
new kernel route, in your XF86Config:

Option "NvAgp" "1"

This forces Nvidia's internal AGP support. 

In os-registry.c of the NVdriver module:

NVreg_EnableAGPSBA = 0;

was a requirement for stability on my system as well. As always, YMMV.

Good luck,
Reid

Re: hangs using opengl

[Reid Hekman]

On Thu, 2002-01-17 at 15:31, J Sloan wrote:
> >Stability wise,
> >internal NvAGP worked better than agpgart on KX133 and 440BX.
> >
> OK - I am seeing no stability issues so
> I guess I don't have to worry about that
> bit -

Interesting, as I said before, YMMV. On this system (cheap Korean
mainboard), a previous BIOS rev completely hosed AGP altogether :-/.

> 
> BTW I did notice some longish pauses
> during RtCW when using nv agp, so I
> am using the in-kernel agp....

Hmm, it's fine here. What chipset and video card are you using? I've
been looking at Athlon boards and I'm curious about issues showing up in
AGP, IDE, PCI among the various platforms -- specifically AMD and Via
(maybe SiS too).

I've heard some (dis?)information that AMD agpgart lacks errata
workarounds? SiS lacks support for more than ATA66? Are there still
problems with Via timers or PCI?

Just curious,
Reid

[OT] Re: hangs using opengl

[J Sloan]

Reid Hekman wrote:

>On Thu, 2002-01-17 at 15:31, J Sloan wrote:
>
>>BTW I did notice some longish pauses
>>during RtCW when using nv agp, so I
>>am using the in-kernel agp....
>>
>
>Hmm, it's fine here. What chipset and video card are you using? I've
>been looking at Athlon boards and I'm curious about issues showing up in
>AGP, IDE, PCI among the various platforms -- specifically AMD and Via
>(maybe SiS too).
>
I'm using a PIII-933 on an i815 mobo.

Video card recently upgraded from a
voodoo3 to a geforce mx 200 -

It seems rock solid; the box is doing a
number of things - iptables for the home
lan, web/mail/dns/ftp etc; I use it as a
workstation/game box when I'm home -


lspci output if interested -

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82815 815 Chipset Host Bridge and 
Memory Controller Hub (rev 02)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation: Unknown device 1131 (rev 02)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801BAM PCI (rev 02)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801BA ISA Bridge (ICH2) (rev 02)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801BA IDE U100 (rev 02)
00:1f.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA(M) USB (Hub A) (rev 02)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801BA(M) SMBus (rev 02)
00:1f.4 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA(M) USB (Hub B) (rev 02)
01:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA(M) Ethernet (rev 01)
01:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82557 [Ethernet Pro 100] 
(rev 08)01:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1371 
[AudioPCI-97] (rev 06)
02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 DDR (rev b2)

Re: hangs using opengl

[Alan Cox]

> Ok thanx all Another thing when it crashes the hd load seems extremely 
> high. system config is Intel P3 1ghz, intel 815 chipset, kernel 2.4.5 
> ,xf86 4.1, kde 2.2

How old is your 815 chipset ? I had problems with high load crashes on
three 815 based boards all of which were the same (MX3S) and all of which
went back.

Intel has errata on the 815 where the SDRAM voltage drive is apparently
wrong and board level corrections to cope. I've never been able to find
out if the board had these.

> Jan 17 20:15:23 nick kernel: agpgart: unsupported bridge
> Jan 17 20:15:23 nick kernel: agpgart: no supported devices found.

How old is your kernel - and do you have both the 440BX and i81x AGP 
included. The AGP on the i815 basically has two totally different worlds
1.	The rather nice onboard 2D/3D (i810 alike)
2.	When you plug in a video card (440 alike)

Alan

Re: hangs using opengl

[Nick Martens]

Alan Cox wrote:

>>Ok thanx all Another thing when it crashes the hd load seems extremely 
>>high. system config is Intel P3 1ghz, intel 815 chipset, kernel 2.4.5 
>>,xf86 4.1, kde 2.2
>>
> 
> How old is your 815 chipset ? I had problems with high load crashes on
> three 815 based boards all of which were the same (MX3S) and all of which
> went back.
> 
> Intel has errata on the 815 where the SDRAM voltage drive is apparently
> wrong and board level corrections to cope. I've never been able to find
> out if the board had these.
> 
> 
>>Jan 17 20:15:23 nick kernel: agpgart: unsupported bridge
>>Jan 17 20:15:23 nick kernel: agpgart: no supported devices found.
>>
> 
> How old is your kernel - and do you have both the 440BX and i81x AGP 
> included. The AGP on the i815 basically has two totally different worlds
> 1.	The rather nice onboard 2D/3D (i810 alike)
> 2.	When you plug in a video card (440 alike)
> 
> Alan
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I have rebuilt my kernel a few days ago,and my board is about one year (?) old 

one of the first series of the chaintech 6ojv boards