From: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>
Cc: Shawn <spstarr@sh0n.net>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Josh MacDonald <jmacd@CS.Berkeley.EDU>
Subject: Re: Possible Idea with filesystem buffering.
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 00:15:28 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3C4B3370.7020303@namesys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33L.0201201229100.32617-100000@imladris.surriel.com>
Rik van Riel wrote:
>On Sun, 20 Jan 2002, Hans Reiser wrote:
>
>>Write clustering is one thing it achieves.
>>
>>Flushing everything involved in a transaction ... is another thing.
>>
>
>Agreed on these points, but you really HAVE TO work towards
>flushing the page ->writepage() gets called for.
>
>Think about your typical PC, with memory in ZONE_DMA,
>ZONE_NORMAL and ZONE_HIGHMEM. If we are short on DMA pages
>we will end up calling ->writepage() on a DMA page.
>
>If the filesystem ends up writing completely unrelated pages
>and marking the DMA page in question referenced the VM will
>go in a loop until the filesystem finally gets around to
>making a page in the (small) DMA zone freeable ...
>
This is a bug in VM design, yes? It should signal that it needs the
particular page written, which probnably means that it should use
writepage only when it needs that particular page written, and should
otherwise check to see if the filesystem supports something like
pressure_fs_cache(), yes?
>
>
>regards,
>
>Rik
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-01-20 21:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-01-20 9:04 Possible Idea with filesystem buffering Shawn
2002-01-20 11:31 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-20 13:56 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-20 14:21 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-20 15:13 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-20 21:15 ` Hans Reiser [this message]
2002-01-20 21:24 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-20 21:30 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-20 21:40 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-20 21:49 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-20 22:00 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-21 0:10 ` Matt
2002-01-21 0:57 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-21 1:28 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-01-21 2:29 ` Shawn Starr
2002-01-21 19:15 ` Shawn Starr
2002-01-22 22:02 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-21 9:21 ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-21 9:13 ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-21 15:29 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-01-20 17:51 ` Mark Hahn
2002-01-20 21:24 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-20 21:32 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-21 15:37 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-01-20 22:45 ` Shawn Starr
2002-01-20 23:11 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-20 23:40 ` Shawn Starr
2002-01-20 23:48 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-21 0:44 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-21 0:52 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-21 1:08 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-21 1:39 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-21 11:10 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-21 12:12 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-21 13:42 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-21 13:54 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-21 14:07 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-21 17:21 ` Chris Mason
2002-01-21 17:47 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-21 19:44 ` Chris Mason
2002-01-21 20:41 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-21 21:53 ` Chris Mason
2002-01-22 6:02 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-01-22 10:09 ` Tommi Kyntola
2002-01-22 11:39 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-22 18:41 ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-22 19:03 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-23 20:35 ` [Ext2-devel] " Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-01-23 20:48 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-23 20:55 ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-23 23:53 ` Hugh Dickins
2002-01-24 0:01 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-01-22 20:19 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-22 20:50 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-22 14:03 ` Chris Mason
2002-01-22 14:39 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-22 18:46 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-22 19:19 ` Chris Mason
2002-01-22 20:13 ` Steve Lord
2002-01-22 21:22 ` Chris Mason
2002-01-22 20:32 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-22 21:08 ` Chris Mason
2002-01-22 22:05 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-22 22:21 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-23 0:16 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-22 22:10 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-01-23 1:14 ` Stuart Young
2002-01-23 17:16 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-01-22 21:12 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-22 21:28 ` Shawn Starr
2002-01-22 21:31 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-22 20:20 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-22 22:31 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-22 23:34 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-23 17:15 ` Josh MacDonald
2002-01-21 0:28 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-21 0:47 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-21 1:01 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-21 1:21 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-21 1:26 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-21 1:40 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-20 15:49 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-01-20 21:21 ` Hans Reiser
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-01-22 21:02 Rolf Lear
[not found] <Pine.LNX.4.33L.0201222008280.32617-100000@imladris.surriel.com>
2002-01-22 23:31 ` Shawn Starr
2002-01-22 23:37 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-23 5:26 ` Shawn Starr
2002-01-23 9:43 Martin Knoblauch
2002-01-23 11:52 ` Helge Hafting
2002-01-23 12:02 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-23 12:11 ` Martin Knoblauch
[not found] <Pine.LNX.4.33.0201231301560.24338-100000@coffee.psychology.mcmaster.ca>
[not found] ` <3C4FC478.BCC44CDF@TeraPort.de>
[not found] ` <3C4FDB80.C9F83EBB@aitel.hist.no>
2002-01-24 13:59 ` Martin Knoblauch
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