From: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>
Cc: Shawn Starr <spstarr@sh0n.net>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Possible Idea with filesystem buffering.
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 04:26:08 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3C4B6E30.2020007@namesys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33L.0201202318090.32617-100000@imladris.surriel.com>
Rik van Riel wrote:
>On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Hans Reiser wrote:
>
>>Rik van Riel wrote:
>>
>
>>>If your ->writepage() writes pages to disk it just means
>>>that reiserfs will be able to clean its pages faster than
>>>the other filesystems.
>>>
>>the logical extreme of this is that no write caching should be done at
>>all, only read caching?
>>
>
>You know that's bad for write clustering ;)))
>
>>>This means the VM will not call reiserfs ->writepage() as
>>>often as for the other filesystems, since more of the
>>>pages it finds will already be clean and freeable.
>>>
>>>I guess the only way to unbalance the caches is by actually
>>>freeing pages in ->writepage, but I don't see any real reason
>>>why you'd want to do that...
>>>
>>It would unbalance the write cache, not the read cache.
>>
>
>Many workloads tend to read pages again after they've written
>them, so throwing away pages immediately doesn't seem like a
>good idea.
>
I think I must have said free when I meant clean, and this naturally
confused you.
writepage() cleans pages, which is sometimes necessary for freeing them,
but it does not free them itself.
The one place where we would free them is when we repack slums before
writing them. In this case, an empty node is not going to get accessed
again, so it should be freed.
Hans
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-01-21 1:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-01-20 9:04 Possible Idea with filesystem buffering Shawn
2002-01-20 11:31 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-20 13:56 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-20 14:21 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-20 15:13 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-20 21:15 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-20 21:24 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-20 21:30 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-20 21:40 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-20 21:49 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-20 22:00 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-21 0:10 ` Matt
2002-01-21 0:57 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-21 1:28 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-01-21 2:29 ` Shawn Starr
2002-01-21 19:15 ` Shawn Starr
2002-01-22 22:02 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-21 9:21 ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-21 9:13 ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-21 15:29 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-01-20 17:51 ` Mark Hahn
2002-01-20 21:24 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-20 21:32 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-21 15:37 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-01-20 22:45 ` Shawn Starr
2002-01-20 23:11 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-20 23:40 ` Shawn Starr
2002-01-20 23:48 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-21 0:44 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-21 0:52 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-21 1:08 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-21 1:39 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-21 11:10 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-21 12:12 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-21 13:42 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-21 13:54 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-21 14:07 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-21 17:21 ` Chris Mason
2002-01-21 17:47 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-21 19:44 ` Chris Mason
2002-01-21 20:41 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-21 21:53 ` Chris Mason
2002-01-22 6:02 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-01-22 10:09 ` Tommi Kyntola
2002-01-22 11:39 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-22 18:41 ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-22 19:03 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-23 20:35 ` [Ext2-devel] " Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-01-23 20:48 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-23 20:55 ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-23 23:53 ` Hugh Dickins
2002-01-24 0:01 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-01-22 20:19 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-22 20:50 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-22 14:03 ` Chris Mason
2002-01-22 14:39 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-22 18:46 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-22 19:19 ` Chris Mason
2002-01-22 20:13 ` Steve Lord
2002-01-22 21:22 ` Chris Mason
2002-01-22 20:32 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-22 21:08 ` Chris Mason
2002-01-22 22:05 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-22 22:21 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-23 0:16 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-22 22:10 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-01-23 1:14 ` Stuart Young
2002-01-23 17:16 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-01-22 21:12 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-22 21:28 ` Shawn Starr
2002-01-22 21:31 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-22 20:20 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-22 22:31 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-22 23:34 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-23 17:15 ` Josh MacDonald
2002-01-21 0:28 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-21 0:47 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-21 1:01 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-21 1:21 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-21 1:26 ` Hans Reiser [this message]
2002-01-21 1:40 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-20 15:49 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-01-20 21:21 ` Hans Reiser
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2002-01-22 21:02 Rolf Lear
[not found] <Pine.LNX.4.33L.0201222008280.32617-100000@imladris.surriel.com>
2002-01-22 23:31 ` Shawn Starr
2002-01-22 23:37 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-23 5:26 ` Shawn Starr
2002-01-23 9:43 Martin Knoblauch
2002-01-23 11:52 ` Helge Hafting
2002-01-23 12:02 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-23 12:11 ` Martin Knoblauch
[not found] <Pine.LNX.4.33.0201231301560.24338-100000@coffee.psychology.mcmaster.ca>
[not found] ` <3C4FC478.BCC44CDF@TeraPort.de>
[not found] ` <3C4FDB80.C9F83EBB@aitel.hist.no>
2002-01-24 13:59 ` Martin Knoblauch
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