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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>
To: Robert Love <rml@tech9.net>
Cc: yodaiken@fsmlabs.com, Daniel Phillips <phillips@bonn-fries.net>,
	george anzinger <george@mvista.com>,
	Momchil Velikov <velco@fadata.bg>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@fenrus.demon.nl>,
	Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [2.4.17/18pre] VM and swap - it's really unusable
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 13:33:27 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3C4C8927.DB977949@zip.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020121090602.A13715@hq.fsmlabs.com>, <E16PZbb-0003i6-00@the-village.bc.nu> <E16SgXE-0001i8-00@starship.berlin> <20020121084344.A13455@hq.fsmlabs.com> <E16SgwP-0001iN-00@starship.berlin>  <20020121090602.A13715@hq.fsmlabs.com> <1011647882.8596.466.camel@phantasy>

Robert Love wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 2002-01-21 at 11:06, yodaiken@fsmlabs.com wrote:
> 
> > I have not seen a single well structured benchmark that shows a significant
> > difference. I've seen lots of benchmarks with odd mixes of different patches
> > showing something unknown. How about a simple clear dbench?
> 
> I and many others have been posting benchmarks for months.
> 
> Here:
> 
> (average of 4 runs of `dbench 16')
> 2.5.3-pre1:             25.7608 MB/s
> 2.5.3-pre1-preempt:     32.341 MB/s
> 

Well I spent several hours last week trying to reproduce and
account for these observations and basically came up with
nothing.  The patch-induced variation was of the same order
as the inter-run variation.

You should publish the dbench dots.  They're most informative.
Look at these two:

16 clients started
..................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................+..............................................................................................+++++++++++++++****************
Throughput 6.48209 MB/sec (NB=8.10261 MB/sec  64.8209 MBit/sec)

16 clients started
.................................................................................................................................................................................................................................+...................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................+................................................................................+............................+++++++++++++****************
Throughput 7.76901 MB/sec (NB=9.71126 MB/sec  77.6901 MBit/sec)

These are identical runs.  Empty filesystem, 64 megs of memory.

Note how in the second run, a few clients terminated early,
and the throughput numbers increased quite markedly.

I don't know what causes this, and frankly I'm not really
interested.  It's some bizarre freaky dbench instability.

Similar effects occur with the `make -j12 bzImage' swapstorm
test.  After a while, all the `cc' instances start to
get synchronised at the onset of their peak memory demand.
The earlier and longer this happens, the worse the runtime.
It's an unstable system and tiny input perturbations create
large effects on the output.

Sorry, but these are not interesting, repeatable or stable workloads,
and I remain unconvinced about claims that low-latency or preempt
aid I/O throughput.  And even if a statistically significant
benefit _can_ be empirically demonstrated, it would be incautious
to claim a general benefit without a solid explanation of what
is causing it.  (Apart from the RAID5 kernel thread starvation
effect, which _is_ explained).

If someone can show me a sensible and repeatable I/O gain then
great, I can go in and work out exactly where it's coming from
and then we finally have a real, tangible, non-hand-wavy
explanation.  It may be there, but I just don't see it yet.

-

  reply	other threads:[~2002-01-21 21:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 467+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-01-08  3:02 [2.4.17/18pre] VM and swap - it's really unusable Dieter Nützel
2002-01-08 10:55 ` Luigi Genoni
2002-01-08 13:21   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-01-08 13:33     ` Anton Blanchard
2002-01-08 15:00       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-01-08 15:29         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-01-08 15:54           ` Daniel Phillips
2002-01-08 16:38             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-01-08 23:02             ` Luigi Genoni
2002-01-08 23:32               ` Ken Brownfield
2002-01-08 23:42                 ` Robert Love
2002-01-08 23:52                 ` Luigi Genoni
2002-01-09  0:10                 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-09  0:29                   ` John Alvord
2002-01-09  0:43                     ` Robert Love
2002-01-09 16:58                     ` Kent Borg
2002-01-14  1:28                       ` Bill Davidsen
2002-01-14  1:54                         ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 20:12                         ` george anzinger
2002-01-10 19:08                     ` Jussi Laako
2002-01-09  5:08                   ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-09  5:42                     ` Robert Love
2002-01-09  9:08                     ` Helge Hafting
2002-01-09 17:00                     ` Alan Cox
2002-01-09 11:44                       ` Rob Landley
2002-01-09 19:57                         ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-10 16:40                           ` Timothy Covell
2002-01-10  2:25                         ` Alan Cox
2002-01-10 10:06                           ` Rob Landley
2002-01-10 18:34                             ` Chris Friesen
2002-01-10 19:36                               ` David Weinehall
2002-01-10 20:00                                 ` Chris Friesen
2002-01-10 20:13                                   ` Jussi Laako
2002-01-10 20:52                               ` Bernd Eckenfels
2002-01-10 19:01                             ` Alan Cox
2002-01-11  2:47                               ` Nigel Gamble
2002-01-11  3:18                                 ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-11 12:37                                 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-11 20:33                                   ` Robert Love
2002-01-12  2:50                                     ` yodaiken
2002-01-11 20:22                                       ` Rob Landley
2002-01-12  5:00                                         ` yodaiken
2002-01-12 11:53                                           ` Roman Zippel
2002-01-12 12:28                                             ` yodaiken
2002-01-12 13:25                                               ` Roman Zippel
2002-01-12 14:56                                                 ` yodaiken
2002-01-12 17:48                                                   ` Roman Zippel
2002-01-12 19:23                                                     ` yodaiken
2002-01-12 21:21                                                       ` Roman Zippel
2002-01-13  1:23                                                         ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 23:21                                                   ` george anzinger
2002-01-15  0:59                                                     ` yodaiken
2002-01-15  9:18                                                       ` Helge Hafting
2002-01-12 20:12                                                 ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-12 18:46                                             ` Alan Cox
2002-01-12 20:42                                               ` Roman Zippel
2002-01-12 22:13                                                 ` yodaiken
2002-01-13  3:33                                                   ` Roman Zippel
2002-01-13  4:02                                                     ` yodaiken
2002-01-13  1:28                                                 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-12  5:03                                         ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-12 18:26                                           ` Jussi Laako
2002-01-12  6:01                                         ` Robert Love
2002-01-12 12:45                                           ` yodaiken
2002-01-12 19:00                                           ` Alan Cox
2002-01-13  0:16                                             ` Robert Love
2002-01-13  1:41                                               ` Alan Cox
2002-01-13 22:50                                                 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-01-12  9:52                                         ` arjan
2002-01-12 18:54                                           ` Alan Cox
2002-01-12 19:23                                             ` Ed Sweetman
2002-01-12 19:35                                               ` yodaiken
2002-01-12 20:09                                               ` Alan Cox
2002-01-20  0:08                                                 ` Pavel Machek
2002-01-12 19:26                                             ` Robert Love
2002-01-12 19:36                                               ` yodaiken
2002-01-12 20:07                                               ` Alan Cox
2002-01-12 20:03                                                 ` Robert Love
2002-01-12 20:21                                                   ` Alan Cox
2002-01-13  3:10                                                     ` Robert Love
2002-01-13 11:39                                                       ` Russell King
2002-01-13 18:24                                                         ` Robert Love
2002-01-13 19:06                                                           ` Russell King
2002-01-13 19:30                                                           ` Alan Cox
2002-01-13 15:59                                                       ` Alan Cox
2002-01-13 18:20                                                         ` Robert Love
2002-01-14  5:59                                                         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-01-13 22:23                                                           ` Rob Landley
2002-01-13 22:02                                                     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-01-12 20:36                                                 ` Kenneth Johansson
2002-01-12 23:01                                                   ` Robert Love
2002-01-13  0:02                                                     ` J Sloan
2002-01-13  1:38                                                     ` Alan Cox
2002-01-13 15:18                                                       ` Roman Zippel
2002-01-13 15:36                                                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2002-01-14  5:03                                                           ` Daniel Phillips
2002-01-14  5:09                                                             ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-14  9:24                                                               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-01-14  5:34                                                             ` yodaiken
2002-01-14 11:14                                                               ` Roman Zippel
2002-01-14 11:47                                                                 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 12:00                                                                   ` Roman Zippel
2002-01-14 12:27                                                                     ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 13:39                                                                       ` Roman Zippel
2002-01-14 14:35                                                                         ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 14:30                                                                           ` Roman Zippel
2002-01-14 14:35                                                                         ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-14 16:19                                                                           ` Roman Zippel
2002-01-14 20:05                                                                           ` Robert Love
2002-01-14 20:02                                                                       ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-14 21:19                                                                         ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 21:11                                                                           ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-14 21:30                                                                             ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 13:38                                                                 ` yodaiken
2002-01-14 14:40                                                                   ` Roman Zippel
2002-01-14 14:07                                                                 ` Guest section DW
2002-01-14 12:17                                                               ` Momchil Velikov
2002-01-14 12:45                                                                 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-01-14 16:32                                                                   ` Momchil Velikov
2002-01-14 17:43                                                                     ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 22:34                                                                       ` Momchil Velikov
2002-01-14 22:46                                                                         ` yodaiken
     [not found]                                                                           ` <876664vxm8.fsf@fadata.bg>
2002-01-15 12:31                                                                             ` yodaiken
2002-01-20 10:31                                                                               ` george anzinger
2002-01-20 14:34                                                                                 ` yodaiken
2002-01-14 18:04                                                                     ` Oliver Neukum
2002-01-14 20:09                                                                       ` Robert Love
2002-01-14 20:22                                                                         ` Oliver Neukum
2002-01-14 20:36                                                                           ` Robert Love
2002-01-14 22:46                                                                             ` Oliver Neukum
2002-01-15  3:01                                                                               ` george anzinger
2002-01-14 13:45                                                                 ` yodaiken
2002-01-14 13:48                                                                   ` yodaiken
2002-01-14 14:56                                                                   ` Roman Zippel
2002-01-14 16:18                                                                     ` yodaiken
2002-01-14 18:54                                                                       ` Roman Zippel
2002-01-14 16:36                                                                   ` Momchil Velikov
     [not found]                                                                     ` <20020114030925.A1363@viejo.fsmlabs.com>
2002-01-14 18:43                                                                       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-01-14 18:39                                                                         ` yodaiken
2002-01-14 20:16                                                                           ` Robert Love
2002-01-14 19:16                                                                         ` Rick Stevens
2002-01-15  3:07                                                                         ` george anzinger
2002-01-15  3:31                                                                           ` Daniel Phillips
2002-01-15 12:39                                                                           ` yodaiken
2002-01-21 15:38                                                                             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-01-21 15:43                                                                               ` yodaiken
2002-01-21 16:05                                                                                 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-01-21 16:06                                                                                   ` yodaiken
2002-01-21 16:33                                                                                     ` Peter Wächtler
2002-01-21 16:45                                                                                       ` yodaiken
2002-01-21 17:12                                                                                         ` Peter Wächtler
2002-01-21 17:15                                                                                           ` yodaiken
2002-01-21 16:48                                                                                     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-01-21 16:50                                                                                       ` yodaiken
2002-01-21 17:32                                                                                         ` Chris Friesen
2002-01-21 17:52                                                                                           ` yodaiken
2002-01-21 18:59                                                                                             ` Chris Friesen
2002-01-21 19:00                                                                                             ` Peter Wächtler
2002-01-21 21:22                                                                                         ` Robert Love
2002-01-21 21:54                                                                                           ` yodaiken
2002-01-21 22:19                                                                                             ` Robert Love
2002-01-21 22:18                                                                                           ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-21 22:53                                                                                             ` Chris Friesen
2002-01-29 23:12                                                                                             ` Bill Davidsen
2002-01-21 21:24                                                                                       ` Robert Love
2002-01-21 21:16                                                                                     ` Robert Love
2002-01-21 21:33                                                                                       ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2002-01-21 21:59                                                                                         ` J Sloan
2002-01-21 21:49                                                                                       ` yodaiken
2002-01-21 22:01                                                                                         ` Robert Love
2002-01-21 20:52                                                                                           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2002-01-21 22:26                                                                                             ` Robert Love
2002-01-21 23:56                                                                                           ` yodaiken
2002-01-22  0:45                                                                                             ` Roman Zippel
2002-01-22  1:34                                                                                               ` yodaiken
2002-01-22  9:13                                                                                                 ` Roman Zippel
2002-01-22  2:10                                                                                             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-01-24 15:19                                                                                               ` yodaiken
2002-01-24 21:15                                                                                                 ` Roman Zippel
2002-01-26  2:36                                                                                                 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-01-29 23:36                                                                                             ` Bill Davidsen
2002-01-22  0:27                                                                                     ` Roman Zippel
2002-01-21 19:26                                                                                   ` Mark Hahn
2002-01-21 20:16                                                                                     ` Allan Sandfeld
2002-01-22 10:57                                                                                     ` Peter Wächtler
2002-01-21 20:35                                                                                 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-01-21 20:49                                                                                   ` yodaiken
2002-01-21 21:42                                                                                   ` Mark Hahn
2002-01-22  0:58                                                                                     ` Ken Brownfield
2002-01-22 16:51                                                                                     ` Bill Davidsen
2002-01-22 20:50                                                                                       ` Jussi Laako
2002-01-29 23:05                                                                                         ` Bill Davidsen
2002-01-29 23:33                                                                                           ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 17:36                                                                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-01-14 15:08                                                               ` Russ Leighton
2002-01-14  8:24                                                             ` Arjan van de Ven
2002-01-13 15:45                                                         ` Alan Cox
2002-01-13 20:25                                                           ` Roman Zippel
2002-01-13 21:11                                                             ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14  0:33                                                               ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2002-01-14  0:50                                                                 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14  1:17                                                                   ` Robert Love
2002-01-14  9:49                                                                     ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2002-01-14  9:45                                                                   ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2002-01-14 10:04                                                                     ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-14 11:47                                                                       ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2002-01-14 12:29                                                                         ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 22:20                                                                           ` Jussi Laako
2002-01-15  1:43                                                                             ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2002-01-15 20:29                                                                               ` Jussi Laako
2002-01-14 19:58                                                                         ` george anzinger
2002-01-14 10:09                                                                     ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 15:02                                                                     ` J.A. Magallon
2002-01-14 15:03                                                                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2002-01-14 19:50                                                                         ` george anzinger
2002-01-14 19:35                                                                       ` Robert Love
2002-01-14 15:46                                                                         ` Rob Landley
2002-01-14 22:03                                                                     ` Jussi Laako
2002-01-15  1:34                                                                       ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2002-01-14  0:10                                                             ` yodaiken
2002-01-14  0:41                                                               ` Roman Zippel
2002-01-14  1:05                                                                 ` yodaiken
2002-01-14 10:16                                                                   ` Roman Zippel
2002-01-14  1:19                                                                 ` Robert Love
2002-01-13 18:13                                                         ` Robert Love
2002-01-14  1:50                                                         ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-14  1:56                                                           ` Robert Love
2002-01-14 10:55                                                           ` Roman Zippel
     [not found]                                                       ` <16QNVQ-2JqEACC@fwd03.sul.t-online.com>
     [not found]                                                         ` <3C43D5E1.6785695C@mvista.com>
2002-01-15  8:32                                                           ` Oliver Neukum
2002-01-13  1:30                                                   ` Alan Cox
2002-01-12 20:53                                             ` Roman Zippel
2002-01-12 23:07                                               ` Rob Landley
2002-01-13 16:03                                                 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-13  1:26                                               ` Alan Cox
2002-01-13 13:34                                                 ` Roman Zippel
2002-01-13 15:19                                                   ` Alan Cox
2002-01-13 22:06                                             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-01-14  7:22                                             ` Alans example against preemtive kernel (Was: Re: [2.4.17/18pre] VM and swap - it's really unusable) Roger Larsson
2002-01-14  9:18                                               ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 12:08                                         ` [2.4.17/18pre] VM and swap - it's really unusable Helge Hafting
2002-01-18 22:41                                           ` Preempt & how long it takes to interrupt (was Re: [2.4.17/18pre] VM and swap - it's really unusable) Pavel Machek
2002-01-20 11:22                                             ` Rob Landley
2002-01-21 21:48                                               ` Alan Cox
2002-01-22 11:52                                                 ` Rob Landley
2002-01-27 20:37                                                   ` Alan Cox
2002-01-27 22:10                                                     ` Nigel Gamble
2002-01-27 22:56                                                       ` Preempt & how long it takes to interrupt (was Re: [2.4.17/18pre]u Alan Cox
2002-01-20 20:22                                             ` Preempt & how long it takes to interrupt (was Re: [2.4.17/18pre] VM and swap - it's really unusable) Robert Love
2002-01-12 11:13                                     ` [2.4.17/18pre] VM and swap - it's really unusable Andrea Arcangeli
2002-01-12 15:07                                       ` jogi
2002-01-12 16:05                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-01-13 15:15                                           ` jogi
2002-01-12 16:52                                         ` yodaiken
2002-01-12 17:00                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-01-12 19:00                                             ` Ed Sweetman
2002-01-12 20:23                                               ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-12 21:02                                                 ` Erik Andersen
2002-01-12 21:18                                                   ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2002-01-12 23:24                                                     ` Erik Andersen
2002-01-12 21:16                                                 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2002-01-12 22:25                                                 ` Francois Romieu
2002-01-13  1:32                                                 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-13  1:57                                                 ` J.A. Magallon
2002-01-13  8:03                                                 ` Rusty Russell
2002-01-13 17:42                                                 ` jogi
2002-01-13 18:22                                                   ` Robert Love
2002-01-13 19:32                                                     ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 11:41                                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-01-13 19:35                                                     ` J Sloan
2002-01-14  6:49                                                       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-01-15  1:31                                                         ` J Sloan
2002-01-13 19:46                                                     ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-13 20:04                                                       ` Robert Love
2002-01-13 20:30                                                         ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-14 11:56                                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-01-14 13:38                                                           ` Robert Love
2002-01-14 15:45                                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-01-13 20:17                                                     ` jogi
     [not found]                                                       ` <Pine.LNX.4.33.0201131533530.14774-100000@coffee.psychology.mcmaster.ca>
2002-01-13 22:14                                                         ` jogi
2002-01-13 23:52                                                     ` yodaiken
2002-01-14 11:39                                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                                                 ` <3C40A6BB.1090100@pobox.com>
2002-01-14 11:34                                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-01-14 20:27                                                     ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-13 15:22                                               ` jogi
2002-01-14 23:05                                                 ` george anzinger
2002-01-13 15:18                                           ` jogi
2002-01-13 17:51                                             ` yodaiken
2002-01-13 18:10                                               ` jogi
2002-01-13 18:11                                             ` Robert Love
2002-01-14 11:32                                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-01-13 22:55                                         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-01-13 22:56                                           ` Robert Love
2002-01-14  0:11                                             ` yodaiken
2002-01-14 11:18                                           ` Marian Jancar
2002-01-14 14:16                                             ` yodaiken
2002-01-14  2:46                               ` Pavel Machek
2002-01-10  9:59                   ` Ken Brownfield
2002-01-10 11:04                     ` Alan Cox
2002-01-09  0:13               ` Dieter Nützel
2002-01-09  6:26               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-01-09  7:25                 ` Preemtive kernel (Was: Re: [2.4.17/18pre] VM and swap - it's really unusable) Roger Larsson
2002-01-09  7:48                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-01-08 20:55           ` [2.4.17/18pre] VM and swap - it's really unusable Robert Love
2002-01-09 11:24             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-01-09 14:07               ` Ed Sweetman
2002-01-09 14:27                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-01-09 14:51                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2002-01-09 17:02                     ` Roger Larsson
2002-01-09 17:10                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2002-01-09 17:13                     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-01-08 19:47         ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-08 20:13           ` Alan Cox
2002-01-08 22:00             ` Roger Larsson
2002-01-08 20:18           ` Daniel Phillips
2002-01-08 21:19             ` Robert Love
2002-01-14  1:08             ` Bill Davidsen
2002-01-08 20:59           ` Daniel Phillips
2002-01-08 21:08             ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-08 21:15               ` Robert Love
2002-01-08 21:24                 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-08 21:45                   ` Robert Love
2002-01-08 22:31                     ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-08 21:51               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-01-08 21:10             ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-08 21:17             ` Robert Love
2002-01-08 21:57               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-01-08 22:01                 ` Robert Love
2002-01-14  1:22               ` Bill Davidsen
2002-01-08 22:21             ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-09  9:17               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-01-09  9:26                 ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-09  9:48                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-01-08 23:26             ` Luigi Genoni
2002-01-09  6:36               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-01-08 21:08           ` Robert Love
2002-01-09  0:31           ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-01-09  9:50             ` Helge Hafting
2002-01-08 17:41     ` Luigi Genoni
2002-01-14  0:46     ` Bill Davidsen
2002-01-14  1:14       ` yodaiken
2002-01-14  2:04       ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-16 15:15         ` Bill Davidsen
2002-01-14  9:08       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-01-14  9:08       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-01-14  9:08       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-01-14 16:40       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-01-14 17:42         ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 21:28           ` J Sloan
2002-01-08 13:51 ` J.A. Magallon
     [not found] ` <E16OHLf-0000Dn-00@starship.berlin>
     [not found]   ` <20020109145509.G1543@inspiron.school.suse.de>
2002-01-09 14:07     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-01-09 14:22       ` Andrea Arcangeli
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-02-25 11:51 Aviv Shavit
2002-02-26  0:09 ` Ken Brownfield
2002-02-26  4:40   ` Ken Brownfield
2002-04-09 20:45     ` Aviv Shavit
2002-04-09 21:16       ` Rik van Riel
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.33.0201221206320.20907-100000@coffee.psychology.mcmaster.ca>
2002-01-22 17:51 ` Peter Wächtler
2002-01-22  1:44 rwhron
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.33.0201150023040.21289-100000@coffee.psychology.mcmaster.ca>
2002-01-15 17:49 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-01-16 15:27   ` Bill Davidsen
2002-01-16 16:37     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-01-15 12:21 Martin Knoblauch
2002-01-15 11:38 Martin Knoblauch
2002-01-15 13:32 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-15 18:37   ` Martin Knoblauch
2002-01-14 23:42 Dieter Nützel
2002-01-14 22:59 Robert Lowery
     [not found] <20020114165430.421B01ED55@Cantor.suse.de>
2002-01-14 17:20 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-01-22  5:12   ` Dieter Nützel
2002-01-22  7:28     ` J Sloan
2002-01-14 16:53 Dieter Nützel
2002-01-14 16:46 Hron, Randall
2002-01-14 16:25 Martin Knoblauch
2002-01-15  1:27 ` M.H.VanLeeuwen
2002-01-14  8:52 Martin Knoblauch
2002-01-14  5:23 Dieter Nützel
2002-01-14  2:12 Dieter Nützel
2002-01-14  0:33 Robert Lowery
2002-01-14  0:51 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 19:52 ` george anzinger
2002-01-14  0:29 Dieter Nützel
2002-01-13 20:11 Dieter Nützel
2002-01-13 23:33 ` J Sloan
2002-01-14  0:00   ` Dieter Nützel
2002-01-14  9:08   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-01-14 20:20     ` J Sloan
2002-01-10  5:31 rwhron
     [not found] <200201090014.g090Efpn002215@Expansa.sns.it>
2002-01-09  1:09 ` Luigi Genoni
2002-01-08 21:45 Gonzalez, Inaky
2002-01-08 14:22 Markus Döhr
     [not found] <20020108030431.0099F38C58@perninha.conectiva.com.br>
2002-01-08 13:59 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2002-01-08 15:39   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-01-08 20:24     ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-09 10:44       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-01-14  0:55     ` Bill Davidsen
2002-01-08 15:46   ` Alan Cox
2002-01-08 16:10   ` David S. Miller
2002-01-08 20:13   ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-09 10:33     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-01-08  4:00 M.H.VanLeeuwen
2002-01-07 17:41 Martin Knoblauch
2002-01-07 17:55 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2002-01-07 18:00   ` Martin Knoblauch
2002-01-06 20:38 rwhron
2002-01-07 17:39 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2002-01-08  2:48   ` rwhron
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.33L.0112292256490.24031-100000@imladris.surriel.com>
     [not found] ` <3C2F04F6.7030700@athlon.maya.org>
2001-12-31 17:14   ` [PATCH] " M.H.VanLeeuwen
2001-12-31 17:53     ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2002-01-04  2:14       ` M.H.VanLeeuwen
2002-01-04 12:33         ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2002-01-04 14:14           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-01-04 14:24             ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2002-01-04 14:51               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-01-05  2:20                 ` M.H.VanLeeuwen
2002-01-04 14:11         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-01-05 19:47         ` José Luis Domingo López
2001-12-30 13:37 Martin Knoblauch
2001-12-30 15:14 ` Andreas Hartmann
2001-12-30 20:11 ` M. Edward Borasky
2001-12-30 21:11   ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-31  9:57     ` Martin Knoblauch
2001-12-28 20:16 Andreas Hartmann
2001-12-28 20:32 ` Rik van Riel
     [not found] ` <3C2CD9EC.1D6C798E@zip.com.au>
2001-12-28 21:26   ` Andreas Hartmann
2001-12-29  0:30 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-29 13:14 ` Andreas Hartmann
2001-12-29 15:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-01-03 20:23 ` Ken Brownfield
2002-01-03 20:50   ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-03 21:54   ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-04  4:56     ` Ken Brownfield
2002-01-04  0:19   ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2002-01-04  5:26     ` Ken Brownfield
2002-01-04  8:06       ` Ville Herva
2002-01-04 13:05         ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2002-01-04 13:03       ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2002-01-04 23:50         ` Ken Brownfield
2002-01-05 15:08           ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2002-01-05 21:40             ` Ken Brownfield
2002-01-06 15:48               ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2002-01-08  5:09                 ` Ken Brownfield
2002-01-07  1:42             ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-07  2:22               ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-07 14:20                 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2002-01-08  0:36                   ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-04 20:15     ` Andreas Hartmann
2002-01-04 20:55       ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2002-01-05  8:39         ` Andreas Hartmann
2002-01-05 12:59           ` M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
2002-01-05 15:09             ` Andreas Hartmann
2002-01-05 17:51               ` M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
2002-01-06 15:51             ` vda
2002-01-06 19:16               ` M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
2002-01-06 19:38                 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-07  0:47                   ` M. Edward Borasky
2002-01-05  9:24       ` Petro
2002-01-05 15:44         ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2002-01-07  7:15           ` Petro
2002-01-07 14:33             ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2002-01-07 20:29               ` Petro
2002-01-08  1:43                 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2002-01-08  3:10                   ` Petro
2002-01-08  6:00                     ` Petro
2002-01-11 20:41   ` Ken Brownfield
2002-01-11 21:13     ` Mark Hahn
2002-01-11 21:38       ` Ken Brownfield
2002-01-11 23:38       ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-11 21:23     ` Ken Brownfield
2002-01-12  0:13     ` M.H.VanLeeuwen

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