From: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>
To: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>,
Andreas Dilger <adilger@turbolabs.com>,
Chris Mason <mason@suse.com>, Shawn Starr <spstarr@sh0n.net>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ext2-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Ext2-devel] Re: Possible Idea with filesystem buffering.
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 12:55:28 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3C4F2340.57E597DF@zip.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3C4DB256.172F8D6A@zip.com.au> <Pine.LNX.4.33L.0201221649430.32617-100000@imladris.surriel.com>, <Pine.LNX.4.33L.0201221649430.32617-100000@imladris.surriel.com>; from riel@conectiva.com.br on Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 05:03:02PM -0200 <20020123203500.L1930@redhat.com>
"Stephen C. Tweedie" wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 05:03:02PM -0200, Rik van Riel wrote:
> > On Tue, 22 Jan 2002, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > Hans Reiser wrote:
> > >
> > > Note that writepage() doesn't get used much. Most VM-initiated
> > > filesystem writeback activity is via try_to_release_page(), which
> > > has somewhat more vague and flexible semantics.
> >
> > We may want to change this though, or at the very least get
> > rid of the horrible interplay between ->writepage and
> > try_to_release_page() ...
>
> This is actually really important --- writepage on its own cannot
> distinguish between requests to flush something to disk (eg. msync or
> fsync), and requests to evict dirty data from memory.
>
> This is really important for ext3's data journaling mode --- syncing
> to disk only requires flushing as far as the journal, but evicting
> dirty pages requires a full writeback too. That's one place where our
> traditional VM notion of writepage just isn't quite fine-grained
> enough.
And we use currently use PF_MEMALLOC to work out which context
we're being called from. Sigh.
I wish I'd taken better notes of all the square pegs which
ext3 had to push into the kernel's round holes. But there
were so many :)
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-01-23 21:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-01-20 9:04 Possible Idea with filesystem buffering Shawn
2002-01-20 11:31 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-20 13:56 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-20 14:21 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-20 15:13 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-20 21:15 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-20 21:24 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-20 21:30 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-20 21:40 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-20 21:49 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-20 22:00 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-21 0:10 ` Matt
2002-01-21 0:57 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-21 1:28 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-01-21 2:29 ` Shawn Starr
2002-01-21 19:15 ` Shawn Starr
2002-01-22 22:02 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-21 9:21 ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-21 9:13 ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-21 15:29 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-01-20 17:51 ` Mark Hahn
2002-01-20 21:24 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-20 21:32 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-21 15:37 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-01-20 22:45 ` Shawn Starr
2002-01-20 23:11 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-20 23:40 ` Shawn Starr
2002-01-20 23:48 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-21 0:44 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-21 0:52 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-21 1:08 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-21 1:39 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-21 11:10 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-21 12:12 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-21 13:42 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-21 13:54 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-21 14:07 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-21 17:21 ` Chris Mason
2002-01-21 17:47 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-21 19:44 ` Chris Mason
2002-01-21 20:41 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-21 21:53 ` Chris Mason
2002-01-22 6:02 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-01-22 10:09 ` Tommi Kyntola
2002-01-22 11:39 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-22 18:41 ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-22 19:03 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-23 20:35 ` [Ext2-devel] " Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-01-23 20:48 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-23 20:55 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2002-01-23 23:53 ` Hugh Dickins
2002-01-24 0:01 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-01-22 20:19 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-22 20:50 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-22 14:03 ` Chris Mason
2002-01-22 14:39 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-22 18:46 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-22 19:19 ` Chris Mason
2002-01-22 20:13 ` Steve Lord
2002-01-22 21:22 ` Chris Mason
2002-01-22 20:32 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-22 21:08 ` Chris Mason
2002-01-22 22:05 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-22 22:21 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-23 0:16 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-22 22:10 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-01-23 1:14 ` Stuart Young
2002-01-23 17:16 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-01-22 21:12 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-22 21:28 ` Shawn Starr
2002-01-22 21:31 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-22 20:20 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-22 22:31 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-22 23:34 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-23 17:15 ` Josh MacDonald
2002-01-21 0:28 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-21 0:47 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-21 1:01 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-21 1:21 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-21 1:26 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-21 1:40 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-20 15:49 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-01-20 21:21 ` Hans Reiser
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