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From: Dan Kegel <dank@kegel.com>
To: Kev <klmitch@MIT.EDU>
Cc: Arjen Wolfs <arjen@euro.net>,
	coder-com@undernet.org, feedback@distributopia.com,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Coder-Com] Re: PROBLEM: high system usage / poor SMPnetwork  performance
Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2002 16:37:43 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3C5DD7D7.64A52BB1@kegel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200202040007.TAA19301@multics.mit.edu>

Kev wrote:
> 
> > The /dev/epoll patch is good, but the interface is different enough
> > from /dev/poll that ircd would need a new engine_epoll.c anyway.
> > (It would look like a cross between engine_devpoll.c and engine_rtsig.c,
> > as it would need to be notified by os_linux.c of any EWOULDBLOCK return values.
> > Both rtsigs and /dev/epoll only provide 'I just became ready' notification,
> > but no 'I'm not ready anymore' notification.)
> 
> I don't understand what it is you're saying here.  The ircu server uses
> non-blocking sockets, and has since long before EfNet and Undernet branched,
> so it already handles EWOULDBLOCK or EAGAIN intelligently, as far as I know.

Right.  poll() and Solaris /dev/poll are programmer-friendly; they give 
you the current readiness status for each socket.  ircu handles them fine.

/dev/epoll and Linux 2.4's rtsig feature, on the other hand, are
programmer-hostile; they don't tell you which sockets are ready.
Instead, they tell you when sockets *become* ready;
your only indication that those sockets have become *unready*
is when you see an EWOULDBLOCK from them.

If this didn't make any sense, maybe seeing how it's used might help.
Look at Poller::clearReadiness() in
http://www.kegel.com/dkftpbench/doc/Poller.html#DOC.9.11 or
http://www.kegel.com/dkftpbench/dkftpbench-0.38/Poller_sigio.cc
and the calls to Poller::clearReadiness() in
http://www.kegel.com/dkftpbench/dkftpbench-0.38/ftp_client_pipe.cc

- Dan

  reply	other threads:[~2002-02-04  0:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-01-29 18:00 PROBLEM: high system usage / poor SMP network performance Dan Kegel
2002-01-29 20:09 ` Vincent Sweeney
2002-01-31  5:24   ` Dan Kegel
     [not found]     ` <001d01c1aa8e$2e067e60$0201010a@frodo>
2002-02-03  8:03       ` Dan Kegel
2002-02-03  8:36         ` Andrew Morton
2002-02-04 14:57           ` [Coder-Com] " Darren Smith
2002-02-04 17:41             ` Aaron Sethman
2002-02-04 18:11               ` Darren Smith
2002-02-04 18:30                 ` Aaron Sethman
2002-02-04 18:48                   ` Kev
2002-02-04 18:59                     ` Aaron Sethman
2002-02-04 18:53                   ` Doug McNaught
2002-02-08 22:11                 ` James Antill
2002-02-12 18:48           ` Vincent Sweeney
2002-02-03 19:22         ` Kev
     [not found]       ` <5.1.0.14.2.20020203173247.02c946e8@pop.euronet.nl>
2002-02-03 19:16         ` [Coder-Com] Re: PROBLEM: high system usage / poor SMPnetwork performance Dan Kegel
2002-02-04  0:07           ` Kev
2002-02-04  0:37             ` Dan Kegel [this message]
2002-02-04  0:59               ` Aaron Sethman
2002-02-04  1:16                 ` Dan Kegel
2002-02-04  1:30                   ` Aaron Sethman
2002-02-04  1:38                     ` Dan Kegel
2002-02-04  4:38                       ` Aaron Sethman
2002-02-04  5:35                         ` Dan Kegel
2002-02-04  5:43                           ` Aaron Sethman
2002-02-04  6:11                 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-04  6:26                   ` Aaron Sethman
2002-02-04  6:29                     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-04  6:39                       ` Aaron Sethman
2002-02-04  2:55               ` Kev
2002-02-04  3:25                 ` Dan Kegel
2002-02-04  4:47                   ` Aaron Sethman
2002-02-04  5:10                   ` Kev

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