From: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>
To: Martin Dalecki <dalecki@evision-ventures.com>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>, Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>,
kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: another IDE cleanup: kill duplicated code
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 12:03:26 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3C69750E.8BA2C6AB@zip.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020211221102.GA131@elf.ucw.cz> <3C68F3F3.8030709@evision-ventures.com>
Martin Dalecki wrote:
>
> If you are already at it, I would like to ask to you consider seriously
> the removal of the
> following entries in the ide drivers /proc control files:
>
> ide_add_setting(drive, "breada_readahead", ... 1,
> 2, &read_ahead[major], NULL);
> ide_add_setting(drive, "file_readahead", ...
> &max_readahead[major][minor], NULL);
>
> Those calls can be found in ide-cd.c, ide-disk,c and ide-floppy.c
I suspect that if we remove these, we'll one day end up putting them back.
It is appropriate that we be able to control readahead characteristics
on a per-device and per-technology basis.
> The second of them is trying to control a file-system level constant
> inside the actual block device driver.
> This is a blatant violation of the layering principle in software
> design, and should go as soon as
> possible.
Well, the whole design of filesystems and the VM are a blatant
layering violation: all the stuff we do at all levels to try to
perform block-contiguous reads and writes, and to keep related
data at related LBAs is making implicit assumptions about the
underlying physical storage technology. We've been doing that
for 30 years - if a constant access time storage technology
takes over from rotating and seeking disks, we have a lot of stuff
to toss out.
That being said, it is a horrid user interface wart that IDE readhead
is controlled from /proc/ide/hda/settings:file_readhead, and that IDE
ignores /proc/sys/vm/max-readahead, whereas devices which forget to
set up their max_readhead entries are controlled by /proc/sys/vm/max-readhead.
My vote would be to remove both of them. Move the readhead controls
into the filemap level, but implement per-device controls. Say,
/proc/sys/vm/readhead/hda, /proc/sys/vm/readhead/sdc, etc.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-02-12 20:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-02-11 22:11 another IDE cleanup: kill duplicated code Pavel Machek
2002-02-12 10:52 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-12 12:28 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-02-12 12:45 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-12 12:57 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-02-12 13:17 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-12 13:43 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-02-12 13:58 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-12 14:42 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-02-12 15:23 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-12 15:28 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-02-12 15:35 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-12 16:56 ` Jens Axboe
2002-02-13 5:50 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-02-13 7:28 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-02-13 10:53 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-13 10:35 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-13 10:29 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-02-13 10:56 ` Pavel Machek
2002-02-13 11:11 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-13 11:25 ` Matthias Andree
2002-02-12 18:28 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-13 12:35 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-13 16:24 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-13 16:31 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-12 16:57 ` Jens Axboe
2002-02-13 5:46 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-02-13 6:42 ` Jens Axboe
2002-02-13 7:30 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-02-13 7:47 ` Jens Axboe
2002-02-13 7:44 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-02-13 7:58 ` Jens Axboe
2002-02-13 20:38 ` Rik van Riel
2002-02-13 11:01 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-13 11:03 ` Jens Axboe
2002-02-13 11:27 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-02-13 7:05 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-02-12 12:50 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-12 19:19 ` Roger Larsson
2002-02-13 10:56 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-12 20:03 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2002-02-13 10:47 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-13 18:52 ` Andrew Morton
2002-02-14 10:04 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-14 10:19 ` Andrew Morton
2002-02-13 5:52 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-02-13 7:30 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-02-13 7:27 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-02-13 10:39 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-02-13 10:46 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-02-13 11:26 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-02-13 11:26 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-02-13 11:03 ` Daniel Egger
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