From: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] sys_sync livelock fix
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 15:22:48 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3C69A3C8.17160BC3@zip.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3C69A18A.501BAD42@zip.com.au> from "Andrew Morton" at Feb 12, 2002 03:13:14 PM <E16amOF-0003Rk-00@the-village.bc.nu>
Alan Cox wrote:
>
> > Given that /bin/sync calls write_unlocked_buffers() three times,
> > that's good enough. sync still takes aaaaaages, but it terminates.
>
> Whats wrong with sync not terminating when there is permenantly I/O left ?
> Its seems preferably to suprise data loss
Hard call. What do we *want* sync to do?
SuS doesn't require sync to be synchronous, although in linux
it traditionally has been. SUS says:
The sync() function causes all information in memory that
updates file systems to be scheduled for writing out to all
file systems.
The writing, although scheduled, is not necessarily complete
upon return from sync().
I think the larger problem is that an infinite-duration
/bin/sync can break existing stuff.
If someone calls /bin/sync while there's write activity
going on, and expects that to prevent data loss then
their assumptions are broken anyway. There can be new
write data generated as soon as sync returns.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-02-12 23:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-02-12 23:13 [patch] sys_sync livelock fix Andrew Morton
2002-02-12 23:31 ` Alan Cox
2002-02-12 23:22 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2002-02-13 0:28 ` Alan Cox
2002-02-13 3:28 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-02-13 3:46 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-02-13 15:11 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-13 22:24 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-02-13 22:41 ` Mike Fedyk
2002-02-14 0:26 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-14 0:37 ` Andrew Morton
2002-02-14 0:49 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-14 0:53 ` Andrew Morton
2002-02-14 1:27 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-14 1:29 ` Andrew Morton
2002-02-14 1:59 ` Mike Fedyk
2002-02-14 2:07 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-13 23:31 ` Rob Landley
2002-02-14 0:44 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-12 23:29 ` Rik van Riel
2002-02-13 0:25 ` Alan Cox
2002-02-13 0:15 ` Rik van Riel
2002-02-13 0:36 ` Alan Cox
2002-02-13 0:36 ` Rik van Riel
2002-02-13 0:39 ` Andrew Morton
2002-02-13 3:42 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-02-13 3:54 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-02-13 4:01 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-02-13 4:53 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-02-13 15:17 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-13 4:29 ` Andrew Morton
2002-02-13 5:21 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-02-13 5:35 ` Andrew Morton
2002-02-18 2:29 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-02-13 14:09 ` bill davidsen
2002-02-13 15:29 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-13 22:53 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-02-14 0:33 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-13 1:36 ` What is a livelock? (was: [patch] sys_sync livelock fix) Olaf Dietsche
2002-02-13 1:56 ` Andrew Morton
2002-02-13 2:30 ` Olaf Dietsche
2002-02-13 2:39 ` Andrew Morton
2002-02-13 16:19 ` Olaf Dietsche
2002-02-13 2:52 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-02-18 22:19 ` David Schwartz
2002-02-13 2:33 ` Rob Landley
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-02-13 9:18 [patch] sys_sync livelock fix Andries.Brouwer
2002-02-14 0:57 Andries.Brouwer
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