From: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@fenrus.demon.nl>,
Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.4.19pre1aa1
Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 15:24:49 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3C8553C1.5E296978@zip.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020305161032.F20606@dualathlon.random> <Pine.LNX.4.44L.0203051354590.1413-100000@duckman.distro.conectiva> <20020305192604.J20606@dualathlon.random>, <20020305192604.J20606@dualathlon.random>; <20020305183053.A27064@fenrus.demon.nl> <3C8518AE.B44AF2D5@zip.com.au> <20020306000314.M20606@dualathlon.random>, <20020306000314.M20606@dualathlon.random> <20020306000532.N20606@dualathlon.random>
Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
>
> BTW, I noticed one of my last my email was a private reply so I'll
> answer here too for the buffer_head pagecache I/O part:
Heh. Me too.
> Having persistence on the physical I/O information is a good thing, so
> you don't need to resolve logical to physical block at every I/O and bio
> has a cost to setup too. The information we carry on the bh isn't
> superflous, it's needed for the I/O so even if you don't use the
> buffer_head you will still need some other memory to hold such
> information, or alternatively you need to call get_block (and serialize
> in the fs) at every I/O even if you've plenty of ram free. So I don't
> think the current setup is that stupid, current bh only sucks for the
> rawio and that's fixed by bio.
The small benefit of caching the get_block result in the buffers
just isn't worth it.
At present, a one-megabyte write to disk requires the allocation
and freeing and manipulation and locking of 256 buffer_heads and
256 BIOs. lru_list_lock, hash_table_lock, icache/dcache
thrashing, etc, etc. It's an *enormous* amount of work.
I'm doing the same amount of work with as few as two (yes, 2) BIOs.
This is not something theoretical. I have numbers, and code.
20% speedup on a 2-way with a workload which is dominated
by copy_*_user. It'll be more significant on larger machines,
on machines with higher core/main memory speed ratios, on
machines with higher I/O bandwidth. (OK, that bit was theoretical).
-
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-03-05 23:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-02-27 12:50 2.4.19pre1aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2002-02-28 22:11 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Bill Davidsen
2002-03-01 1:30 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Mike Fedyk
2002-03-01 3:26 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Bill Davidsen
2002-03-01 3:46 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Mike Fedyk
2002-03-01 12:51 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Rik van Riel
2002-03-01 18:37 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Mike Fedyk
2002-03-01 10:17 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Marco Colombo
2002-03-01 11:37 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Alan Cox
2002-03-02 2:06 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2002-03-02 2:28 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Alan Cox
2002-03-02 3:30 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2002-03-03 21:38 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Daniel Phillips
2002-03-04 0:49 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2002-03-04 1:46 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Daniel Phillips
2002-03-04 2:25 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2002-03-04 3:22 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Daniel Phillips
2002-03-04 12:41 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Rik van Riel
2002-03-04 14:05 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2002-03-04 14:23 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Rik van Riel
2002-03-04 16:10 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2002-03-04 16:28 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Rik van Riel
2002-03-04 16:59 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Martin J. Bligh
2002-03-04 18:18 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Stephan von Krawczynski
2002-03-04 18:41 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Stephan von Krawczynski
2002-03-04 18:46 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Martin J. Bligh
2002-03-04 22:06 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2002-03-04 23:03 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Samuel Ortiz
2002-03-05 11:23 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Stephan von Krawczynski
2002-03-05 17:35 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Samuel Ortiz
2002-03-05 0:12 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Rik van Riel
2002-03-05 6:21 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Martin J. Bligh
2002-03-04 21:37 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Rik van Riel
2002-03-04 18:19 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2002-03-04 18:56 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Martin J. Bligh
2002-03-04 22:25 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2002-03-04 23:09 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Gerrit Huizenga
2002-03-05 0:19 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2002-03-05 2:00 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Gerrit Huizenga
2002-03-04 22:38 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Daniel Phillips
2002-03-04 21:36 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Rik van Riel
2002-03-04 23:01 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2002-03-04 23:11 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Rik van Riel
2002-03-04 23:52 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2002-03-05 0:01 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Rik van Riel
2002-03-05 1:05 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2002-03-05 1:26 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Rik van Riel
2002-03-05 1:40 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2002-03-05 1:55 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Martin J. Bligh
2002-03-05 5:16 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Samuel Ortiz
2002-03-05 5:47 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Martin J. Bligh
2002-03-05 6:33 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Samuel Ortiz
2002-03-05 12:22 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Rik van Riel
2002-03-05 15:01 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L.0203050921510.1413-100000@duckman.distro.conecti va>
2002-03-05 15:29 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Martin J. Bligh
2002-03-05 15:43 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2002-03-05 3:05 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Bill Davidsen
2002-03-05 8:35 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 arjan
2002-03-05 12:41 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Rik van Riel
2002-03-05 15:10 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2002-03-05 16:57 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Rik van Riel
2002-03-05 18:26 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2002-03-05 18:30 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Arjan van de Ven
2002-03-05 19:12 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Andrew Morton
2002-03-05 23:03 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2002-03-05 23:05 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2002-03-05 23:24 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2002-03-05 23:37 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2002-03-05 23:51 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Andrew Morton
2002-03-06 0:09 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Daniel Phillips
2002-03-05 14:55 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2002-03-05 5:38 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Martin J. Bligh
2002-03-05 6:45 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 David Lang
[not found] ` <200203021958.g22JwKq08818@Port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua>
2002-03-02 20:47 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2002-03-02 20:58 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Robert Love
2002-03-05 22:16 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Bill Davidsen
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2002-02-28 2:57 2.4.19pre1aa1 rwhron
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