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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Arch option to touch newly allocated pages
Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2002 14:23:21 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3C87E859.427EC3C7@zip.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3C87E35E.B841801D@zip.com.au> <Pine.LNX.4.44L.0203071908380.2181-100000@imladris.surriel.com>

Rik van Riel wrote:
>
> > So what *is* a solution.  Well, there's only so much memory available.
> > In either case a) or case b) we're "fairly" distributing that memory
> > between all files.  And that's the problem.  *All* the files have too
> > small a readahead window.  Which points one at: we need to stop being
> > fair. We need to give some files a good readahead window and others
> > not.   The "soft pinning" which I propose with GFP_READAHEAD and
> > PG_readhead might have that effect, I think.
> 
> Actually, it could boil down to something more:
> 
> use-once reduces the VM to FIFO order, which suffers from
> belady's anomaly so it doesn't matter much how much memory
> you throw at it
> 
> drop-behind will suffer the same problem once the readahead
> memory is too large to keep in the system, but at least the
> already-used pages won't kick out readahead pages

err..  Was there a fix in there somewhere, or are we stuck?

-

  reply	other threads:[~2002-03-07 22:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-03-03 21:12 [RFC] Arch option to touch newly allocated pages Jeff Dike
2002-03-03 22:01 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-03 23:27   ` Jeff Dike
2002-03-03 23:48     ` Alan Cox
2002-03-04  3:16       ` Jeff Dike
2002-03-04  3:35         ` Alan Cox
2002-03-04  5:04           ` Jeff Dike
2002-03-04 15:09             ` Alan Cox
2002-03-04 17:42               ` Jeff Dike
2002-03-04 18:29                 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-04 18:36                   ` Jeff Dike
2002-03-04 18:49                     ` Alan Cox
2002-03-04 20:46                       ` Jeff Dike
2002-03-04 22:49                         ` Alan Cox
2002-03-04 17:46             ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-03-04 18:34               ` Jeff Dike
2002-03-04 18:33                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-03-04 20:36                   ` Jeff Dike
2002-03-04 22:51                     ` Alan Cox
2002-03-05  4:15                       ` Jeff Dike
2002-03-05  4:28                         ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-03-05  4:40                           ` Jeff Dike
2002-03-05  5:34                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-03-05 14:43                               ` Jeff Dike
2002-03-05 16:37                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-03-05 16:56                                   ` Wayne Whitney
2002-03-05 18:12                                   ` Jeff Dike
2002-03-05 18:30                                     ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-03-06 14:59                                       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-06 15:24                                         ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-03-06 15:24                                           ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-06 16:36                                             ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-03-06 23:14                                               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-06 23:20                                                 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-03-06 23:26                                                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-06 23:33                                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-03-07  0:08                                                       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-07  1:27                                                   ` Jeff Dike
2002-03-07  1:52                                                     ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-03-08 19:17                                                       ` Jeff Dike
2002-03-08 21:22                                                         ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-03-07 13:49                                                     ` Alan Cox
2002-03-07 13:36                                                       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-07 14:04                                                         ` yodaiken
2002-03-07 14:21                                                           ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-07 14:38                                                             ` yodaiken
2002-03-07 15:31                                                               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-07 16:50                                                                 ` yodaiken
2002-03-07 18:07                                                                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-07 18:15                                                                     ` yodaiken
2002-03-07 19:22                                                                     ` Alan Cox
2002-03-07 22:43                                                                       ` David Woodhouse
2002-03-07 23:09                                                                         ` Alan Cox
2002-03-07 22:57                                                                           ` David Woodhouse
2002-03-07 14:43                                                             ` Alan Cox
2002-03-07 15:32                                                               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-07 16:19                                                                 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-07 17:54                                                                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-07 15:34                                                               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-07 19:18                                                                 ` Andrew Morton
2002-03-07 20:10                                                                   ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-07 20:56                                                                     ` Andrew Morton
2002-03-07 21:23                                                                       ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-07 22:02                                                                         ` Andrew Morton
2002-03-07 22:10                                                                           ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-07 22:23                                                                             ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2002-03-07 22:27                                                                               ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-07 22:41                                                                                 ` Andrew Morton
2002-03-07 22:42                                                                                 ` David Lang
2002-03-06 16:03                                         ` Jesse Pollard
2002-03-06 17:08                                           ` Jeff Dike
2002-03-06 17:33                                             ` Alan Cox
2002-03-07  0:28                                               ` Jeff Dike
2002-03-07  0:44                                                 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-05 18:46                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-03-06  1:30                                     ` Alan Cox
2002-03-06 10:49                                     ` David Woodhouse
2002-03-06 14:26                                       ` Jeff Dike
2002-03-06 16:50                                       ` Alan Cox
2002-03-06 20:25                                         ` Jeff Dike
2002-03-06 20:54                                           ` Alan Cox
2002-03-06 21:27                                             ` Malcolm Beattie
2002-03-06 23:26                                               ` Jeff Dike
2002-03-06 21:27                                           ` David Woodhouse
2002-03-06 22:25                                             ` Joseph Malicki
2002-03-07  0:04                                             ` Richard Gooch
2002-03-07  0:28                                             ` Jeff Dike
2002-03-07  0:44                                               ` Alan Cox
2002-03-06 22:21                                         ` Pavel Machek
2002-03-07 11:30                                           ` Dave Jones
2002-03-07 18:21                                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-03-05 14:43                           ` Jeff Dike
2002-03-05 16:57                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-03-05 18:14                               ` Jeff Dike
2002-03-05 18:45                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-03-05 17:30                             ` Jan Harkes

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