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From: "Peter Wächtler" <pwaechtler@loewe-komp.de>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: frankeh@watson.ibm.com, arjanv@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: furwocks: Fast Userspace Read/Write Locks
Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 10:21:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3C888284.8030206@loewe-komp.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E16j95K-00047G-00@wagner.rustcorp.com.au>

Rusty Russell wrote:

> In message <20020307153228.3A6773FE06@smtp.linux.ibm.com> you write:
> 
>>On Thursday 07 March 2002 07:50 am, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
>>
>>>Rusty Russell wrote:
>>>
>>>>This is a userspace implementation of rwlocks on top of futexes.
>>>>
>>>question: if rwlocks aren't actually slower in the fast path than
>>>futexes,
>>>would it make sense to only do the rw variant and in some userspace
>>>layer
>>>map "traditional" semaphores to write locks ?
>>>Saves half the implementation and testing....
>>>
>>I m not in favor of that. The dominant lock will be mutexes.
>>
> 
> To clarify: I'd love this, but rwlocks in the kernel aren't even
> vaguely fair.  With a steady stream of overlapping readers, a writer
> will never get the lock.
> 
> Hope that clarifies,


But you talk about the current implementation, don't you?
Is there something to prevent an implementation of rwlocks in the
kernel, where a wrlock will lock (postponed) further rdlock requests?

I mean: the wrlocker prevents newly rdlocks to succeed and waits for the
current rdlockers to release the lock an then gets the lock..



  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-03-08  9:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-03-07 12:11 furwocks: Fast Userspace Read/Write Locks Rusty Russell
2002-03-07 12:40 ` Peter Wächtler
2002-03-07 14:41   ` Hubertus Franke
2002-03-07 12:50 ` Arjan van de Ven
2002-03-07 15:33   ` Hubertus Franke
2002-03-07 15:42     ` Arjan van de Ven
2002-03-07 19:11       ` Hubertus Franke
2002-03-07 20:17         ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-03-08  6:27           ` Rusty Russell
2002-03-08  6:29             ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-03-08  7:09               ` Rusty Russell
2002-03-08 19:32             ` Jamie Lokier
2002-03-08  1:22     ` Rusty Russell
2002-03-08  3:26       ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-03-08  9:21       ` Peter Wächtler [this message]
2002-03-08 18:13         ` Hubertus Franke
2002-03-09  4:50         ` Rusty Russell
2002-03-11 18:47           ` Hubertus Franke
2002-03-07 15:28 ` Hubertus Franke

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