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From: Christopher Quinn <cq@htec.demon.co.uk>
To: Mark Hahn <hahn@physics.mcmaster.ca>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Interprocess shared memory .... but file backed?
Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 16:05:38 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3C88E152.5070201@htec.demon.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0203081049360.15002-100000@coffee.psychology.mcmaster.ca>

Mark Hahn wrote:

>>>well MAP_PRIVATE is "dont share" so not with that 8)
>>>Use MAP_SHARED and you'll get what you want
>>>
>>Certainly true! But MAP_SHARED gives uncontrolled flush of 
>>dirty data - so that's out for me. I only want 'privacy' to 
>>extend to the right to make changes permanent at my own 
>>discretion.
>>
> 
> right, and that's not what Unix provides.  in particular, mmap
> is a means for apps to be polite, not for them to strongarm
> the kernel.  in particular, if you mmap a file, much of the point
> is that the kernel chooses how much of the state is in ram or 
> on disk.  you can, of course, msync, or even munmap.
> 
> 
> 

Seems a bit restrictive to me. After all Unix is not an 
ossified standard! :)
Assuming clone() actually page table shares the vm covered 
by a mmap(MAP_PRIVATE) in the way I want, it isn't much to 
ask to be more *restrictive* on sharing?

So far, it's looking as if my ideal is unattainable with the 
current kernel.
Anyone disagree?


-- 
rgrds,
Chris Quinn


       reply	other threads:[~2002-03-08 16:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.33.0203081049360.15002-100000@coffee.psychology.mcmaster.ca>
2002-03-08 16:05 ` Christopher Quinn [this message]
2002-03-08 15:08 Interprocess shared memory .... but file backed? Christopher Quinn
2002-03-08 15:32 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-08 15:30   ` Christopher Quinn
2002-03-08 19:20     ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-03-08 15:51 ` Richard B. Johnson

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