From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@mandrakesoft.com>
To: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] My AMD IDE driver, v2.7
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 19:34:26 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3C8D4D12.90606@mandrakesoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.96.1020311185647.27404G-100000@gatekeeper.tmr.com>
Bill Davidsen wrote:
>On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
>>Note that I've actually tried to read all patches, and right now they are
>>all in my tree (of course, the "all" is the Linus kind of "all", which
>>only includes the ones I actually _noticed_.
>>
>>That includes your AMD IDE driver change _and_ the oh-so-much-discussed
>>patches by Martin (which in turn included Pavel's change, which - together
>>with his changelog entry - seems to be the one that triggered the "lively
>>discussions").
>>
>
>I think you might want to offer an opinion (or edict, mandate, whatever)
>WRT taskfile. While I think that some protective editing of commands is
>desirable, useful, etc, I'm damn sure that some form of raw access is
>required long term to allow diagmostics. I wouldn't argue if that
>interface was required for low level format and other really drastic
>operations as well.
>
One sticking point seems to be the question of whether there needs to be
some amount of validation performed on the commands passed through the
taskfile interface. I don't think Andre buys into the argument that
most other kernel hackers understand, which is, "if userspace is allowed
to bang away at random i/o ports, why validate taskfile requests in the
kernel?"
And IMO, we should have some basic validation of taskfile requests in
the kernel...
Reason 1: Standard kernel convention. In other ioctls, we check basic
arguments and return EINVAL when they are wrong, even for privieleged
ioctls.
Reason 2: If you have multiple programs issuing ATA commands, you would
want a decent amount of synchronization, provided by the kernel, for the
multiple user processes and multiple kernel processes issuing requests.
Having the userspace commands come down a single spot in the kernel
code makes this job a lot easier, if not making the impossible possible :)
Regards,
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-03-12 0:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-03-11 15:13 [patch] My AMD IDE driver, v2.7 Vojtech Pavlik
2002-03-11 16:36 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-03-11 20:49 ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-11 22:45 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-11 22:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-11 22:45 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-03-11 22:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-12 0:14 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-03-12 0:34 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2002-03-12 0:58 ` Erik Andersen
2002-03-12 1:33 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-03-12 1:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-12 1:50 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-03-11 18:50 ` gmack
2002-03-12 2:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-12 2:34 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-03-12 11:21 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-03-12 2:54 ` J. Dow
2002-03-12 6:32 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-03-14 15:12 ` Pavel Machek
2002-03-13 18:42 ` Horst von Brand
2002-03-13 19:11 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-03-12 6:25 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-03-12 7:13 ` Erik Andersen
2002-03-12 16:40 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-03-12 0:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-12 1:41 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-03-12 1:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-12 2:22 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-03-12 2:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-12 2:37 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-03-12 3:34 ` Olivier Galibert
2002-03-12 4:13 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-03-14 14:13 ` Pavel Machek
2002-03-15 11:05 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-03-18 19:20 ` Pavel Machek
2002-03-19 9:29 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-03-19 21:21 ` Pavel Machek
2002-03-19 21:56 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-03-20 8:00 ` Daniela Engert
2002-03-20 18:11 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-03-20 18:46 ` Daniela Engert
2002-03-20 22:15 ` Pavel Machek
2002-03-20 23:09 ` Daniel Kobras
2002-03-19 22:33 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-03-20 0:25 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-15 14:45 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-12 11:23 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-03-12 2:50 ` J. Dow
2002-03-12 3:10 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-03-12 3:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-12 3:46 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-03-12 6:10 ` J. Dow
2002-03-12 3:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-12 4:26 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-03-12 4:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-12 6:26 ` J. Dow
2002-03-12 11:44 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-03-12 4:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-12 5:05 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-03-12 5:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-12 11:39 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-03-12 4:49 ` Erik Andersen
2002-03-12 5:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-12 11:36 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-03-12 6:05 ` J. Dow
2002-03-12 4:41 ` Erik Andersen
2002-03-12 4:48 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-03-12 6:30 ` J. Dow
2002-03-12 6:29 ` J. Dow
2002-03-12 16:36 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-03-12 2:57 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-12 2:49 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-03-12 11:17 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-13 8:14 ` ide filters / 'ide dump' / 'bio dump' bert hubert
2002-03-13 10:11 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-03-13 12:05 ` Malcolm Beattie
2002-03-13 17:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-12 11:10 ` [patch] My AMD IDE driver, v2.7 Martin Dalecki
2002-03-12 0:33 ` benh
2002-03-12 20:21 ` Gunther Mayer
2002-03-12 16:33 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-03-12 11:00 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-03-12 15:59 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-03-12 16:11 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-03-12 16:21 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-03-12 16:26 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-03-12 16:33 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-03-12 16:41 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-03-13 0:01 ` Russell King
2002-03-12 16:43 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-03-12 16:50 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-03-12 16:58 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-03-14 14:02 ` Pavel Machek
2002-03-15 11:13 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-03-18 19:21 ` Pavel Machek
2002-03-12 16:44 ` Sebastian Droege
2002-03-13 19:43 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-03-12 16:17 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-03-12 16:27 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-03-12 16:32 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-03-12 20:00 ` [patch] PIIX driver rewrite Vojtech Pavlik
2002-03-12 20:35 ` Sebastian Droege
2002-03-12 20:34 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-03-12 21:07 ` Sebastian Droege
2002-03-12 21:19 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-03-11 23:01 ` [patch] My AMD IDE driver, v2.7 Alan Cox
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