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From: Thunder from the hill <thunder@ngforever.de>
To: Linux Kernel mailing list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: root@chaos.analogic.com, Martin Wilck <Martin.Wilck@fujitsu-siemens.com>
Subject: Re: IO delay, port 0x80, and BIOS POST codes
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 11:18:43 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3C90E983.5AC769B8@ngforever.de> (raw)

Richard B. Johnson wrote:

> On Thu, 14 Mar 2002, Martin Wilck wrote:
> 
> 
> >Hello,
> >
> >the BIOS on our machines (Phoenix) uses IO-port 0x80 for storing
> >POST codes, not only during sytem startup, but also for messages
> >generated during SMM (system management mode) operation.
> >I have been told other BIOSs do the same.
> >
> >Unfortunately we can't read this information because Linux uses
> >port 80 as "dummy" port for delay operations. (outb_p and friends,
> >actually there seem to be a more hard-coded references to port
> >0x80 in the code).
> >
> >It seems this problem was always there, just nobody took notice of it yet
> >(at least in our company). Sometimes people wondered about the weird POST
> >codes displayed in the LCD panel, but who cares once the machine is up...
> >
> >Would it be too outrageous to ask that this port number be changed, or
> >made configurable?
> >
> >Martin
> 
> This is a 'N' year-old question. Do you know of a port that is
> guaranteed to exist on the Intel/PC/AT class machine? If so, submit
> a patch.  I proposed using 0x19h (DMA scratch register) several
> years ago, but it was shot down for some reason. Then I proposed
> 0x42 (PIT Misc register), that too was declared off-limits. So
> I suggested that the outb to 0x80 be changed to an inp, saving 
> %eax on the stack first. That too was shot down. So, you try
> something... and good luck.
I also remember this been discussed anually. Making it configurable with
a warning might be a solution, but that's nothing we could decide. Maybe
add a config option? It night be a [DANGEROUS] one, so the guys and gals
who might compile are warned of changing this.
I think the problem is that on PC arch anything is quite limited.

Thunder

             reply	other threads:[~2002-03-14 18:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-03-14 18:18 Thunder from the hill [this message]
2002-03-15 11:46 ` IO delay, port 0x80, and BIOS POST codes Martin Wilck
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2002-03-15 17:39 Gerald Champagne
2002-03-15 15:07 Thunder from the hill
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2002-03-15 11:51   ` Andi Kleen
2002-03-15 12:47     ` Martin Wilck
2002-03-15 12:52       ` Andi Kleen
2002-03-14 17:11 Martin Wilck
2002-03-14 17:54 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-03-14 18:10 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-14 19:23   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-14 19:46     ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-03-14 20:43     ` John Heil
2002-03-14 21:03       ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-03-14 21:19         ` Pedro M. Rodrigues
2002-03-14 21:26           ` John Heil
2002-03-14 21:41           ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-03-14 21:26         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-14 21:44           ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-03-14 21:56             ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-03-14 22:11               ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-03-14 22:20                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-03-14 22:25                   ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-03-14 22:58                     ` Alan Cox
2002-03-14 22:56                 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-14 21:11       ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-03-14 21:24       ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-14 21:57         ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-03-14 22:06           ` John Heil
2002-03-14 22:55             ` Alan Cox
2002-03-14 22:39               ` John Heil
2002-03-14 23:29                 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-15  0:12               ` David Golden
2002-03-15  0:11                 ` John Heil
2002-03-19 14:25                 ` Pavel Machek
2002-03-15 11:30         ` Eric W. Biederman

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