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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@mandrakesoft.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: Anders Gustafsson <andersg@0x63.nu>,
	arjanv@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mochel@osdl.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] devexit fixes in i82092.c
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 03:51:17 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3C930785.2070902@mandrakesoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0203152339200.31551-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>

Linus Torvalds wrote:

>On Fri, 15 Mar 2002, Jeff Garzik wrote:
>
>>I wonder if mochel already code for this, or has thought about this... 
>> Just like suspend, IMO we ideally should use the device tree to 
>>shutdown the system, agreed?
>>
>
>Ideally we should, yes. Although if we really turn off power, it doesn't 
>much matter.
>
It matters to a software engineering wonk like me :)   I know it 
-really- doesn't matter, but from a theoretical perspective, if we are 
trying to achieve the "everything is hotpluggable" model, poweroff via 
device tree will naturally fall out from that.

If it makes it easier for some, I consider poweroff not as an act unto 
itself, but as a transition to state D3cold. :)  And since we will 
eventually be able to handle transition to similar low-power states, we 
might as well follow similar/the same code paths.

>>Further, I wonder if the reboot/shutdown notifiers can be replaced with 
>>device tree control over those events...
>>
>
>This is what I want. Those reboot/shutdown notifiers are completely and 
>utterly buggy, and cannot sanely handle any kind of device hierarchy.
>
yep

    Jeff






  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-03-16  8:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-03-16  0:57 [PATCH] devexit fixes in i82092.c Anders Gustafsson
2002-03-16  1:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-16  2:25   ` Jeff Garzik
2002-03-16  7:40     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-16  7:51       ` Keith Owens
2002-03-16  8:13         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-16  9:00           ` Jeff Garzik
2002-03-16  9:50           ` Keith Owens
2002-03-25 19:15           ` Patrick Mochel
2002-03-16  8:51       ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2002-03-16 17:35         ` Alan Cox
2002-03-16 17:31           ` Jeff Garzik
2002-03-25 19:19           ` Patrick Mochel
2002-03-16  9:40       ` Arjan van de Ven
2002-03-22 15:47         ` Pavel Machek
2002-03-16 10:32       ` David Woodhouse
2002-03-16 19:27     ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-03-16 21:00       ` Alan Cox
2002-03-16 22:03         ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-03-16 22:28           ` Alan Cox
2002-03-16 22:16             ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-03-16 22:26             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-16 23:00               ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-03-16 23:15               ` Dave Jones
2002-03-21 15:12                 ` Pavel Machek
2002-03-25 19:02     ` Patrick Mochel
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-03-24 23:36 Alexander Stohr

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