From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@mandrakesoft.com>
To: Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Problems using new Linux-2.4 bitkeeper repository.
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 13:05:26 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3C938966.3080302@mandrakesoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200203161608.g2GG8WC05423@localhost.localdomain> <3C9372BE.4000808@mandrakesoft.com> <20020316083059.A10086@work.bitmover.com> <3C9375B7.3070808@mandrakesoft.com> <20020316085213.B10086@work.bitmover.com> <3C937B82.60500@mandrakesoft.com> <20020316091452.E10086@work.bitmover.com> <3C938027.4040805@mandrakesoft.com> <20020316093832.F10086@work.bitmover.com>
Larry McVoy wrote:
>>I think a fair question would be, is this scenario going to occur often?
>> I don't know. But I'll bet you -will- see it come up again in kernel
>>development. Why? We are exercising the distributed nature of the
>>BitKeeper system. The system currently punishes Joe in Alaska and
>>Mikhail in Russia if they independently apply the same GNU patch, and
>>then later on wind up attempting to converge trees.
>>
>
>Indeed. So speak in file systems, because a BK package is basically a file
>system, with multiple distributed instances, all of which may be out of
>sync. The problems show up when the same patch is applied N times and
>then comes together. The inodes collide. Right now, you think that's
>the problem, and want BK to fix it. We can fix that. But that's not
>the real problem. The real problem is N sets of diffs being applied
>and then merged. The revision history ends up with the data inserted N
>times.
>
Another thought, that I'm betting you laugh at me for even suggesting :)
Don't insert the data N times. Give the user the option to say that one
or more changesets are actually the same one. In filesystem speak,
unlink a file B which is a user-confirmed duplicate of file A, and
re-create file B as a symlink to file A. Or just unlink file B without
the symlink, whichever metaphor suits you better. :)
Yes it is "altering history"... but... OTOH the user has just told
BitKeeper, in no uncertain terms, that he is altering history only to
make it more correct.
From a user interface perspective, the user would pick one of N
changeset comments to be considered the "real" one.
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-03-16 18:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-03-15 2:38 Problems using new Linux-2.4 bitkeeper repository James Bottomley
2002-03-15 4:55 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-03-16 16:08 ` James Bottomley
2002-03-16 16:28 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-03-16 16:30 ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-16 16:41 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-03-16 16:52 ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-16 17:06 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-03-16 17:14 ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-16 17:25 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-03-16 17:38 ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-16 17:51 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-03-16 18:31 ` Christer Weinigel
2002-03-16 18:05 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2002-03-16 19:01 ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-16 19:44 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-03-17 10:49 ` David Woodhouse
2002-03-17 15:54 ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-17 16:23 ` David Woodhouse
2002-03-17 18:15 ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-17 18:34 ` David Woodhouse
2002-03-18 15:25 ` Tom Rini
2002-03-16 17:17 ` James Bottomley
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