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From: Charles-Edouard Ruault <ce@ruault.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Problem on Linux 2.4 with usage of ip_default_ttl
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 21:51:52 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3C982378.3010202@ruault.com> (raw)

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Here's  a small bug i've discovered yesterday in linux 2.4.18 :

On Linux you can "customize" the default ttl that will be used in all 
the IP packets that the box will be sending ( using 
/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_default_ttl ) .
One of the main reasons to do that , as it has been said in many 
articles, is to make your machine  a little bit more difficult to 
fingerprint.

However, while playing with this feature, i've discovered that the 
current kernel ( 2.4.18 ) and probably earlier versions, don't use this 
default value when generating the following packets :

- ICMP reply ( of any kind ) and ICMP error messages
- TCP RST .

They instead use hardcoded values ( MAXTTL ).
 From what i've seen all the other IP packets are using the value set by 
/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_default_ttl ( provided that the socket has been 
created after changing the value ).

Therefore, changing the ip_default_ttl on a standard kernel might do the 
opposite of what you're trying to achieve : make it much easier for an 
attacker to fingerprint your os....
By sending a few packets to the target host, you can see wether the 
default ttl has been changed on the machine and therefore enforce other 
findings about the host.

I've written a small patch ( against kernel 2.4.18 ) that fixes this 
behaviour. I'm attaching it to this email.
comments are welcome.

PS : please CC me in replies to this email, i have not subscribed to the 
list.

-- 
Charles-Edouard Ruault
PGP Key ID 4370AF2D


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