From: george anzinger <george@mvista.com>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Why HZ on i386 is 100 ?
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 12:24:06 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3CC5B4D6.C982F311@mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3CC4861C.F21859A6@mvista.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel> <E16zuPf-0007yD-00@the-village.bc.nu.suse.lists.linux.kernel> <p73g01m994q.fsf@oldwotan.suse.de>
Andi Kleen wrote:
>
> Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> writes:
>
> > > The problem is in accounting (or time slicing if you prefer) where we
> > > need to start a timer each time a task is context switched to, and stop
> > > it when the task is switched away. The overhead is purely in the set up
> > > and tear down. MOST of these never expire.
> >
> > Done properly on many platforms a variable tick is very very easy and also
> > very efficient to handle. X86 is a paticular problem case because the timer
> > is so expensive to fiddle with
>
> Depends. On modern x86 you can either use the local APIC timer or
> the mmtimers (ftp://download.intel.com/ial/home/sp/mmts097.pdf -
> should be in newer x86 chipsets). Both should be better than the
> 8254 timer and are also not expensive to work with.
I just looked at the mmtimers. Looks like the right idea but a bit
overblown. I would prefer an interrupt generated by a compare to the
TSC all on board the cpu chip. This would eliminate the I/O overhead.
Still the 8-bit PIT is the pits.
When can we expect to see this in a real cpu?
-g
>
> -Andi
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George Anzinger george@mvista.com
High-res-timers: http://sourceforge.net/projects/high-res-timers/
Real time sched: http://sourceforge.net/projects/rtsched/
Preemption patch: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/rml
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-04-23 19:27 UTC|newest]
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[not found] ` <E16zuPf-0007yD-00@the-village.bc.nu.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2002-04-23 7:17 ` Why HZ on i386 is 100 ? Andi Kleen
2002-04-23 19:09 ` george anzinger
2002-04-24 1:42 ` Alan Cox
2002-04-24 20:20 ` george anzinger
2002-04-27 20:26 ` Alan Cox
2002-04-28 6:02 ` george anzinger
2002-04-28 9:12 ` Alan Cox
2002-04-28 17:34 ` george anzinger
2002-04-28 18:59 ` Alan Cox
2002-04-28 21:50 ` george anzinger
2002-04-29 0:14 ` Alan Cox
2002-04-23 19:24 ` george anzinger [this message]
2002-04-23 19:35 ` Andi Kleen
2002-04-24 17:25 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-04-17 0:33 Chen, Kenneth W
2002-04-17 1:02 ` Davide Libenzi
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2002-04-16 10:41 Cabaniols, Sebastien
2002-04-16 7:47 Olaf Fraczyk
2002-04-16 8:14 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-04-16 8:18 ` BALBIR SINGH
2002-04-16 10:29 ` Liam Girdwood
2002-04-16 10:01 ` Olaf Fraczyk
2002-04-16 13:35 ` Terje Eggestad
2002-04-16 13:38 ` Mark Mielke
2002-04-16 13:55 ` Terje Eggestad
2002-04-16 15:32 ` Rik van Riel
2002-04-16 16:12 ` Chris Friesen
2002-04-16 17:12 ` Mark Mielke
2002-04-16 13:58 ` Alan Cox
2002-04-17 0:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-04-16 16:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-04-16 16:50 ` David Mosberger
2002-04-16 17:18 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-04-16 17:52 ` David Mosberger
2002-04-16 18:10 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-04-17 0:49 ` David Mosberger
2002-04-17 0:57 ` Robert Love
2002-04-17 1:07 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-04-17 5:18 ` Mark Mielke
2002-04-17 5:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-04-17 6:01 ` Robert Love
2002-04-17 6:17 ` David Mosberger
2002-04-17 7:59 ` arjan
2002-04-17 8:04 ` Matti Aarnio
2002-04-23 22:42 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-04-17 10:12 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-04-18 1:51 ` Dan Mann
2002-04-17 1:22 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-04-17 3:19 ` Ben Greear
2002-04-17 7:55 ` Helge Hafting
2002-04-21 18:00 ` Pavel Machek
2002-04-22 17:20 ` John Alvord
2002-04-22 21:52 ` george anzinger
2002-04-22 23:06 ` J.D. Bakker
2002-04-22 23:26 ` Anton Blanchard
2002-04-23 19:03 ` george anzinger
2002-04-23 7:08 ` Alan Cox
2002-04-22 17:24 ` David Mosberger
2002-04-16 12:42 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-04-16 12:31 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-04-16 14:04 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-04-16 21:34 ` bert hubert
2002-04-16 22:21 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-04-16 22:37 ` Herbert Xu
2002-04-16 22:56 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-04-17 0:34 ` J. Dow
2002-04-17 2:40 ` Herbert Xu
2002-04-17 12:44 ` Kent Borg
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