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From: Martin Dalecki <dalecki@evision-ventures.com>
To: Keith Owens <kaos@ocs.com.au>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] 2.5.10 UTS_VERSION
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:58:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3CC916C3.7010604@evision-ventures.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <13641.1019814773@ocs3.intra.ocs.com.au>

Użytkownik Keith Owens napisał:
> On Fri, 26 Apr 2002 09:33:44 +0200, 
> Martin Dalecki <dalecki@evision-ventures.com> wrote:
> 
>>Make sure UTS_VERSION is allways in "C" locale.
>>Without it you will get (please note the day of week):
>>
>>~# export LANG=en_US
>>~# uname -a
>>Linux rosomak.prv 2.5.10 #1 pi? kwi 26 09:31:52 CEST 2002 i686 unknown
>>~#
> 
> 
> Why is that a problem?  If a user wants a kernel uname in their local
> language, kbuild has no objection.  I need LC_COLLATE=C to get a
> consistent filename ordering for kbuild but everything else, including
> build messages, date and time can be local.

Please note that this is not just a compile time problem!
The UTS_STRING is hard compiled *in to* the kernel and should
be normalized for the following reasons:

1. Consistency
2. Consistency
3. Consistency
4. Giving the uname command a chance to translate it to the peculiar locale
    of the user.
5. During boot this string will be printed to the console. This is the
    time where the system doesn't know *anything* about non ASCII character sets.
    This results in the above example for me for example in printing
    of utter garbage on the screen.
6. Kernel messages are supposed to be in LOCALE="C".


  reply	other threads:[~2002-04-26 10:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-04-23  8:18 2.5.9 -- OOPS in IDE code (symbolic dump and boot log included) Miles Lane
2002-04-23  8:00 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-04-23  9:18   ` Jens Axboe
2002-04-23  8:43     ` Martin Dalecki
2002-04-23  9:54       ` Jens Axboe
2002-04-23 17:39   ` Miles Lane
2002-04-23 17:54     ` Miles Lane
2002-04-24  8:06       ` Martin Dalecki
2002-04-24  9:11         ` Jens Axboe
2002-04-24  8:20           ` Martin Dalecki
2002-04-25 11:07           ` Martin Dalecki
2002-04-25 17:25             ` Jens Axboe
2002-04-25 17:34               ` Jens Axboe
2002-04-25 21:02                 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-04-26  7:33                   ` [PATCH] 2.5.10 UTS_VERSION Martin Dalecki
2002-04-26  9:52                     ` Keith Owens
2002-04-26  8:58                       ` Martin Dalecki [this message]
2002-04-26  7:41                   ` [PATCH] 2.5.10 IDE 42 Martin Dalecki
2002-04-26 16:09                     ` Pavel Machek
2002-04-26 17:31                       ` Dave Jones
2002-04-26 17:37                       ` Linus Torvalds
2002-04-26 20:05                         ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-04-26 21:34                           ` Martin Dalecki
2002-04-26 22:25                           ` Martin Dalecki
2002-04-26 21:32                         ` Martin Dalecki
2002-04-26 23:21                           ` Rene Rebe
2002-04-26 21:42                       ` Martin Dalecki
2002-04-26 16:10                     ` Sebastian Droege
2002-04-26 21:28                       ` Martin Dalecki
2002-04-26 22:44                         ` Padraig Brady
2002-04-28  9:18                           ` Kai Henningsen
2002-05-05 15:54                   ` [PATCH] 2.5.13 IDE 52 Martin Dalecki
2002-05-05 17:09                     ` Jens Axboe
2002-05-05 16:16                       ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-05 15:55                   ` [PATCH] 2.5.13 IDE 53 Martin Dalecki
2002-05-06  9:53                     ` Russell King
2002-05-06  8:55                       ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-06 23:48                         ` jw schultz
2002-05-05 15:56                   ` [PATCH 2.5.13 IDE 54 Martin Dalecki
2002-05-07 12:52                     ` Paul Mackerras
2002-05-07 12:06                       ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-07 14:40                         ` benh
2002-05-07 13:40                           ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-07 15:18                             ` benh
2002-05-07 14:07                       ` Alan Cox
2002-05-07 13:24                         ` Martin Dalecki
2002-04-24  9:29         ` 2.5.9 -- OOPS in IDE code (symbolic dump and boot log included) Luigi Genoni
2002-04-23 18:23   ` Melchior FRANZ

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