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From: "Peter Wächtler" <pwaechtler@loewe-komp.de>
To: john slee <indigoid@higherplane.net>
Cc: Denis Vlasenko <vda@port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [prepatch] address_space-based writeback
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 18:12:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3CCEC275.4000707@loewe-komp.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020427191820.04003500@pop.cus.cam.ac.uk> <5.1.0.14.2.20020429115231.00b1d900@pop.cus.cam.ac.uk> <15565.13742.140693.146727@laputa.namesys.com> <200204301217.g3UCGtX02871@Port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua> <20020430131523.GA22705@higherplane.net>

john slee wrote:
> [ cc list trimmed ]
> 
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 03:19:17PM -0200, Denis Vlasenko wrote:
> 
>>Why do we have to stich to concept of inode *numbers*?
>>Because there are inode numbers in traditional Unix filesystems?
>>
> 
> probably because there is software out there relying on them being
> numbers and being able to do 'if(inum_a == inum_b) { same_file(); }'
> as appropriate.  i can't think of a use for such a construct other than
> preserving hardlinks in archives (does tar do this?) but i'm sure there
> are others
> 
> like much of unix it's been there forever and has become such a natural
> concept in people's heads that to change it now seems unthinkable.
> 
> much like the missing e in creat().
> 

No. Not supplying inode numbers would break unix semantics.
The kernel (and binary loader) depends on a unique key:

major:minor device number + inode


Otherwise: how to decide if a shared object is the same?
checksuming? ;-)

But what would be different with characters? Despite more complexity?



  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-04-30 16:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-04-10 11:21 [prepatch] address_space-based writeback Andrew Morton
2002-04-10 11:34 ` Alexander Viro
2002-04-10 19:16   ` Andrew Morton
2002-04-10 20:53     ` Alexander Viro
2002-04-10 22:12     ` Jan Harkes
2002-04-10 21:44       ` Andrew Morton
2002-04-10 22:56         ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-04-10 22:31           ` Andrew Morton
2002-04-11 20:20           ` Linus Torvalds
2002-04-11 20:41             ` Alexander Viro
2002-04-11 21:27               ` Andrew Morton
2002-04-11 22:55                 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-04-11 22:49                   ` Andrew Morton
2002-04-12  0:12                     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-04-11 23:10                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-04-11 23:22                 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-04-11 23:03                   ` Andrew Morton
2002-04-12  4:19                   ` Bill Davidsen
2002-04-12  1:15             ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-04-12  1:37               ` Linus Torvalds
2002-04-12  7:57                 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-04-27 15:53                   ` Jan Harkes
2002-04-28  3:03                     ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-04-29  9:03                       ` Nikita Danilov
2002-04-29 11:11                         ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-04-29 11:59                           ` Nikita Danilov
2002-04-29 12:34                             ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-04-29 13:01                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-04-30 17:19                             ` Denis Vlasenko
2002-04-30 13:15                               ` john slee
2002-04-30 13:24                                 ` Billy O'Connor
2002-04-30 13:36                                   ` jlnance
2002-04-30 13:40                                 ` Keith Owens
2002-05-01 19:18                                   ` Denis Vlasenko
2002-05-02  8:49                                     ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-05-03 15:35                                       ` Denis Vlasenko
2002-05-03 12:49                                         ` Helge Hafting
2002-05-03 22:47                                           ` Denis Vlasenko
2002-05-03 21:50                                             ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-05-05  0:46                                               ` Denis Vlasenko
2002-05-03  7:56                                     ` Pavel Machek
2002-05-03 14:48                                     ` Rob Landley
2002-05-05  0:42                                       ` Denis Vlasenko
2002-04-30 16:12                                 ` Peter Wächtler [this message]
2002-04-10 23:02         ` Jan Harkes
2002-04-10 19:29 ` Jeremy Jackson
2002-04-10 19:41   ` Andrew Morton
2002-04-15  8:47 ` Andrew Morton

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