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From: Martin Dalecki <dalecki@evision-ventures.com>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjanv@redhat.com>
Cc: Richard Gooch <rgooch@ras.ucalgary.ca>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: kbuild 2.5 is ready for inclusion in the 2.5 kernel
Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 18:53:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3CD16F03.9090900@evision-ventures.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E173HX6-00041D-00@the-village.bc.nu> <3CD13FF3.5020406@evision-ventures.com> <3CD15996.8EB1699F@redhat.com> <200205021559.g42Fxud19755@vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca> <3CD15CFA.1090208@evision-ventures.com> <20020502132552.G8073@devserv.devel.redhat.com>

Uz.ytkownik Arjan van de Ven napisa?:

> 
>>It just DOES NOT BELONG in to the kernel-space.
> 
> 
> That's why it's done by modutils.
> 

Last time I checked on Linux:

[root@kozaczek j2me]# ls -l /proc/ksyms
-r--r--r--    1 root     root            0 Mai  2 19:42 /proc/ksyms

Compare this with the following on Solaris:

www01:/kernel/drv# ls sy sy.conf
sy       sy.conf
www01:/kernel/drv# file sy
sy:             ELF 32-bit MSB relocatable SPARC Version 1
www01:/kernel/drv# cat sy.conf
#
# Copyright (c) 1992, by Sun Microsystems, Inc.
#
#ident  "@(#)sy.conf    1.4     93/06/03 SMI"

name="sy" parent="pseudo" instance=0;
www01:/kernel/drv#
www01:/kernel/drv# nm sy
0000000000000014 T _fini
0000000000000028 T _info
0000000000000000 T _init
                  U cdev_ioctl
                  U cdev_poll
                  U cdev_read
                  U cdev_write
  ....
0000000000000278 T syclose
0000000000000488 T syioctl
0000000000000140 T syopen
00000000000005b0 T sypoll
0000000000000280 T syread
0000000000000384 T sywrite
www01:/kernel/drv# strings sy
Indirect driver for tty 'sy'
www01:/kernel/drv#

And then think about the fact that they are able to even *patch*
running kernels. There is no way I can be convinced that the whole
versioning stuff is neccessary or a good design for any purpose.


  reply	other threads:[~2002-05-02 17:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-05-01 14:23 kbuild 2.5 is ready for inclusion in the 2.5 kernel Keith Owens
2002-05-02 15:17 ` Denis Vlasenko
2002-05-02 10:38   ` tomas szepe
2002-05-02 12:21     ` Keith Owens
2002-05-02 12:49       ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-02 14:26         ` Alan Cox
2002-05-02 13:32           ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-02 14:54             ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-05-02 15:17             ` Alan Cox
2002-05-05  9:43               ` Mike Fedyk
2002-05-05 10:16                 ` Keith Owens
2002-05-02 15:21             ` Arjan van de Ven
2002-05-02 15:59               ` Richard Gooch
2002-05-02 15:36                 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-02 17:15                   ` Alan Cox
2002-05-02 16:30                     ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-02 18:20                       ` Alan Cox
2002-05-02 17:25                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2002-05-02 16:53                     ` Martin Dalecki [this message]
2002-05-02 17:48                       ` David S. Miller
2002-05-02 17:42                         ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-02 19:11                           ` Alan Cox
2002-05-02 18:22                             ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-02 18:49                             ` David S. Miller
2002-05-02 18:33                       ` Alan Cox
2002-05-02 14:24       ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-05-02 15:18         ` David Woodhouse
2002-05-02 15:40           ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-05-02 23:40             ` Keith Owens
2002-05-02 23:25               ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-03 14:48               ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-05-03 15:45                 ` Keith Owens
2002-05-02 15:19         ` Alan Cox
2002-05-02 22:57           ` Pavel Machek
2002-05-03  8:33             ` Vikram
2002-05-03 12:07               ` Keith Owens
2002-05-18  1:14                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-18  1:33                   ` Dave Jones
2002-05-18  3:06                     ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-05-18 12:28                     ` [PATCH] move jiffies from sched.h to it's own jiffies.h Tim Schmielau
2002-05-19 22:33                       ` Tim Schmielau
2002-05-20  2:32                       ` Rusty Russell
2002-05-18  2:12                   ` kbuild 2.5 is ready for inclusion in the 2.5 kernel Gerhard Mack
2002-05-18  2:13                   ` Keith Owens
2002-05-18  2:30                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-20  2:38                     ` Miles Bader
2002-05-02 21:34       ` tomas szepe
2002-05-02 21:42         ` Dave Jones
2002-05-03  1:19           ` John Covici
2002-05-03  1:33             ` Keith Owens
2002-05-03  1:39               ` tomas szepe
2002-05-03  2:31             ` Alexander Viro
2002-05-03  3:21               ` Davide Libenzi
2002-05-02 21:42         ` Alexander Viro
2002-05-02 23:25           ` tomas szepe
2002-05-03 21:05           ` Mark H. Wood
2002-05-04 13:58             ` Kurt Wall
2002-05-06  1:54             ` Mike Fedyk
2002-05-02 22:54 ` Pavel Machek
2002-05-03  9:00   ` Keith Owens
2002-05-03  4:17 ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-05-03  5:02   ` Keith Owens
2002-05-03  6:32     ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-05-03 10:06     ` Gerd Knorr
2002-05-03 10:42       ` Keith Owens
2002-05-03 12:05         ` Gerd Knorr
2002-05-03 13:31           ` Keith Owens
2002-05-04  6:44         ` Paul Mackerras
2002-05-04  8:03           ` Paul Mackerras
2002-05-06  0:42             ` Mike Fedyk
2002-05-06  4:07               ` Paul Mackerras
2002-05-04  9:03           ` Keith Owens
2002-05-04  9:38             ` Russell King
2002-05-04 10:33             ` Paul Mackerras
2002-05-04 11:49               ` Keith Owens
2002-05-06  8:40                 ` Gerd Knorr
2002-05-07  4:14                   ` Keith Owens
2002-05-04 15:30               ` Richard Gooch
2002-05-05 17:23 ` Urban Widmark
2002-05-05 23:36   ` Keith Owens
2002-05-06 11:33     ` Urban Widmark
2002-05-06 23:54       ` Keith Owens
2002-05-06 10:54 ` Alex Riesen
2002-05-08  2:54   ` Keith Owens
2002-05-08 17:25     ` Alex Riesen
2002-05-09  0:10       ` Keith Owens
2002-05-09  0:55         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-05-09  1:44           ` Keith Owens
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-05-05 16:42 Dan Kegel
2002-05-05 23:44 ` Keith Owens
2002-05-06  0:02   ` Dan Kegel
2002-05-06  0:40     ` Keith Owens
2002-05-06 15:38 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-06 15:33   ` Tomas Szepe
     [not found] <cs.lists.linux-kernel/18740.1020729269@ocs3.intra.ocs.com.au>
2002-05-07 23:48 ` Ion Badulescu
2002-05-08  0:10   ` Keith Owens
2002-05-08  0:37     ` Alan Cox
2002-05-08  0:34       ` Keith Owens

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