From: Dave Engebretsen <engebret@vnet.ibm.com>
To: justincarlson@cmu.edu, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, anton@samba.org, davidm@hpl.hp.com,
ak@suse.de
Subject: Re: Memory Barrier Definitions
Date: Wed, 08 May 2002 10:27:10 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3CD943CE.296717DF@vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E175BY8-0008S4-00@the-village.bc.nu> <1020809750.13627.24.camel@gs256.sp.cs.cmu.edu> <3CD89247.8ECB01A4@vnet.ibm.com>
Dave Engebretsen wrote:
>
> justincarlson@cmu.edu wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 2002-05-07 at 16:27, Alan Cox wrote:
> > > and our current heirarchy is a little bit more squashed than that. I'd
> > > agree. We actually hit a corner case of this on the IDT winchip x86 where
> > > we run relaxed store ordering and have to define wmb() as a locked add of
> > > zero to the top of stack - which does have a penalty that isnt needed
> > > for CPU ordering.
> > >
> > > How much of this impacts Mips64 ?
> >
> > In terms of the MIPS{32|64} ISA, the current primitives seem fine;
> > there's only 1 option defined in the ISA: 'sync'. Order for all
> > off-cache accesses is guaranteed around a sync.
> >
> > It gets a bit more complicated when you talk about what particular
> > implementations do, and ordering rules for uncached vs cached accesses,
> > but to the best of my knowledge there aren't any fundamental problems as
> > described for the PPC.
> >
> > -Justin
I am curious what the definition of memory barriers is for IA64, Sparc,
and x86-64.
>From what I can tell, sparc and x86-64 are like alpha and map directly
to the existing mb, wmb, and rmb semantics, incluing ordering between
system memory and I/O space. Is that an accurate assesment?
IA64 has both the mf and mf.a instructions, one for system memory the
other for I/O space. What is required for ordering of references
between the spaces? That is not clear to me looking at the ia64
headers.
Thanks for any input -
Dave.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-05-08 15:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-05-07 19:07 Memory Barrier Definitions Dave Engebretsen
2002-05-07 19:49 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-07 19:53 ` Dave Engebretsen
2002-05-07 20:27 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-07 21:23 ` Dave Engebretsen
2002-05-07 22:15 ` justincarlson
2002-05-08 2:49 ` Dave Engebretsen
2002-05-08 13:54 ` Justin Carlson
2002-05-08 15:27 ` Dave Engebretsen [this message]
2002-05-08 15:49 ` Andi Kleen
2002-05-08 17:07 ` David Mosberger
2002-05-09 7:36 ` Rusty Russell
2002-05-09 8:01 ` Keith Owens
2002-05-09 15:00 ` David Mosberger
2002-05-13 3:26 ` Rusty Russell
2002-05-13 16:36 ` David Mosberger
2002-05-13 16:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-05-13 17:53 ` David Mosberger
2002-05-13 23:28 ` Rusty Russell
2002-05-07 22:57 ` Anton Blanchard
2002-05-13 18:16 ` Jesse Barnes
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-05-09 11:33 Manfred Spraul
2002-05-09 19:38 ` Dave Engebretsen
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