Reiserfs has killed my root FS!?!

Reiserfs has killed my root FS!?!

[Becki Minich]

Firstly, I haven't subscribed to this list since 2.3 so please also copy 
me on repsonses.
Secondly, I am e-mailing from my Mother's place as it IS Mother's Day 
AND my home PC will no longer boot Linux (my primary OS), so please send 
responses to johnnyo@mindspring.com
TIA :-)

Now the problem.
I use reiserfs on all my filesystems.  I have noticed some minor 
corruption of files in the past when I didnt shut down Linux properly 
(lockups, etc).  I experiment alot with my computer.

Anyway lately I was havin a problem that required frequent reboots.  Now 
I believe my root filesystem is corrupted?!?  Linux 2.4.18 boots till it 
gets to

reiserfs: checking transaction log (device 08:12)
attempt to access beyond end of device
08:12: rw=0 want=268574776 limit=8747392
vs-13070: reiserfs_read_inode2: i/o failure occurred trying to find stat 
data of [1 2 0x0 SD]
Using r5 hash to sort names
Reiserfs version 3.6.25
VFS: Mounted root (reiserfs filesystem) readonly.
Warning: unable to mount devfs, err: -5
Freeing unused kernel memory: 224k freed
Warning: unable to open an initial console.
Kernel panic: No init found.

If someone can get me to the point where I can just get to read my 
filesystem read-only, so I get get all my data off of it, I would be 
EXTREMELY GRATEFUL!  I have some very important data on that FS.  I went 
to the reiserfs web site to discover I'd get charged $25 for asking for 
help, so unless someone convinces me otherwise, I will be converting to 
EXT3 when this disaster is over...

Slackware Linux 8.1b2
Linux 2.4.18
ReiserFS 3.6.25
GLIBC 2.2.5
GCC 2.95.3

Any help please?!?
John O'Donnell
johnnyo@mindspring.com

Re: Reiserfs has killed my root FS!?!

[Diego Calleja]

On Sun, 12 May 2002 17:29:09 -0400
Becki Minich <bminich@earthlink.net> escribió:

> reiserfs: checking transaction log (device 08:12)
> attempt to access beyond end of device
> 08:12: rw=0 want=268574776 limit=8747392

I'm not an expert, but this perhaps isn't a reiserfs problem.
I'm using reiserfs and i've never had a problem. The only corruption i've seen is 
while compiling kernel. The .o file was being created, and if i shut down the computer,
at restart, when i try to compile the kernel again, gcc  says that doesn't understands the .o file
This was because when replaying the journal the file was created, but it has random data. This is normal,
because reiserfs only assures the metadata integrity, not the data.

> vs-13070: reiserfs_read_inode2: i/o failure occurred trying to find stat 
> data of [1 2 0x0 SD]
> Using r5 hash to sort names
> Reiserfs version 3.6.25
> VFS: Mounted root (reiserfs filesystem) readonly.
> Warning: unable to mount devfs, err: -5
> Freeing unused kernel memory: 224k freed
> Warning: unable to open an initial console.
> Kernel panic: No init found.
> 
> If someone can get me to the point where I can just get to read my 
> filesystem read-only, so I get get all my data off of it, I would be 
> EXTREMELY GRATEFUL!  I have some very important data on that FS.  I went 
> to the reiserfs web site to discover I'd get charged $25 for asking for 
> help, so unless someone convinces me otherwise, I will be converting to 
> EXT3 when this disaster is over...
> 
> Slackware Linux 8.1b2
> Linux 2.4.18
> ReiserFS 3.6.25
> GLIBC 2.2.5
> GCC 2.95.3
> 
> Any help please?!?
> John O'Donnell
> johnnyo@mindspring.com
> 
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Re: Reiserfs has killed my root FS!?!

[Thunder from the hill]

Hi,

On Sun, 12 May 2002, Diego Calleja wrote:
> > attempt to access beyond end of device
> > 08:12: rw=0 want=268574776 limit=8747392
> 
> I'm not an expert, but this perhaps isn't a reiserfs problem.

Nope. It looks much more like the IDE problem Tomas Szepe addressed in 
"2.5.15 IDE possibly trying to scribble beyond end of device"

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=102102901525874&w=2

Regards,
Thunder
-- 
Was it a black who passed anong in the sand?
Was it a white who left his footprints?
Was it an african? An indian?
Sand says, 'twas human.

Re: Reiserfs has killed my root FS!?!

[Alexander Viro]

On Sun, 12 May 2002, Thunder from the hill wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> On Sun, 12 May 2002, Diego Calleja wrote:
> > > attempt to access beyond end of device
> > > 08:12: rw=0 want=268574776 limit=8747392
> > 
> > I'm not an expert, but this perhaps isn't a reiserfs problem.
> 
> Nope. It looks much more like the IDE problem Tomas Szepe addressed in 
> "2.5.15 IDE possibly trying to scribble beyond end of device"

... except that he's using 2.4

BTW, what had caused these reboots?  If it was memory corruption anywhere -
all bets are off and no journalling will save you.  Contrary to the
popular myth, journalling filesystems (or soft-updates, or mounting
everything full-sync) do _NOT_ protect against hardware problems and
kernel bugs.

Re: Reiserfs has killed my root FS!?!

[Tomas Szepe]

> [Alexander Viro <viro@math.psu.edu>, May-12 2002, Sun, 18:47 -0400]
>
> > On Sun, 12 May 2002, Diego Calleja wrote:
> >
> > > > attempt to access beyond end of device
> > > > 08:12: rw=0 want=268574776 limit=8747392
> > > 
> > > I'm not an expert, but this perhaps isn't a reiserfs problem.
> > 
> > Nope. It looks much more like the IDE problem Tomas Szepe addressed in 
> > "2.5.15 IDE possibly trying to scribble beyond end of device"
> 
> ... except that he's using 2.4

Well, judging by
<quote>
	I use reiserfs on all my filesystems.  I have noticed some minor
	corruption of files in the past when I didnt shut down Linux properly
	(lockups, etc).  I experiment alot with my computer.

	Anyway lately I was havin a problem that required frequent reboots.
</quote>

I'd assume this bloke might have booted 2.5.15, only he's not mentioning it.


T.

Re: Reiserfs has killed my root FS!?!

[John O'Donnell]

Tomas Szepe wrote:

>>[Alexander Viro <viro@math.psu.edu>, May-12 2002, Sun, 18:47 -0400]
>>
>>>On Sun, 12 May 2002, Diego Calleja wrote:
>>>
>>>>>attempt to access beyond end of device
>>>>>08:12: rw=0 want=268574776 limit=8747392
>>>>>
>>>>I'm not an expert, but this perhaps isn't a reiserfs problem.
>>>>
>>>Nope. It looks much more like the IDE problem Tomas Szepe addressed in 
>>>"2.5.15 IDE possibly trying to scribble beyond end of device"
>>>
>>... except that he's using 2.4
>>
>
>Well, judging by
><quote>
>	I use reiserfs on all my filesystems.  I have noticed some minor
>	corruption of files in the past when I didnt shut down Linux properly
>	(lockups, etc).  I experiment alot with my computer.
>
>	Anyway lately I was havin a problem that required frequent reboots.
></quote>
>
>I'd assume this bloke might have booted 2.5.15, only he's not mentioning it.
>
>
>T.
>
I'm sorry.  This IS 2.4.18 - I havent played with 2.5 yet - but thanks 
for the warning.
This is a Seagate ST39102LW hooked into an Adaptec 29160.

I am writing this in my WinDOS 98 mozilla.   I feel so dirty :-)
Well at least it's mozilla. :-)
Johnny O

Re: Reiserfs has killed my root FS!?!

[Oleg Drokin]

Hello!

On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 10:04:11PM -0400, John O'Donnell wrote:

> I'm sorry.  This IS 2.4.18 - I havent played with 2.5 yet - but thanks 
> for the warning.
> This is a Seagate ST39102LW hooked into an Adaptec 29160.

Ok, if you want your fs back, correct way is to download latest preversion of
reiserfsprogs (reiserfsprogs-3.x.1c-pre4 for now) from namesys.com ftp site,
build it somewhere, boot off rescue media of some kind, and then run
reiserfsck with --rebuild-tree argument (and a path to your partition of
course). If you cannot build any binaries anywhere, I can send you a binary
of reiserfsck.
You problem is that pointer to data block got corrupted and now points
outside of the partition.
(notw, if you have some reiserfsck version on your rescue media, it won't
help you, because this exact problem got fixed only recently)

Bye,
    Oleg

Re: Reiserfs has killed my root FS!?!

[John O'Donnell]

Oleg Drokin wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 10:04:11PM -0400, John O'Donnell wrote:
> 
> 
>>I'm sorry.  This IS 2.4.18 - I havent played with 2.5 yet - but thanks 
>>for the warning.
>>This is a Seagate ST39102LW hooked into an Adaptec 29160.
> 
> 
> Ok, if you want your fs back, correct way is to download latest preversion of
> reiserfsprogs (reiserfsprogs-3.x.1c-pre4 for now) from namesys.com ftp site,
> build it somewhere, boot off rescue media of some kind, and then run
> reiserfsck with --rebuild-tree argument (and a path to your partition of
> course). If you cannot build any binaries anywhere, I can send you a binary
> of reiserfsck.
> You problem is that pointer to data block got corrupted and now points
> outside of the partition.
> (notw, if you have some reiserfsck version on your rescue media, it won't
> help you, because this exact problem got fixed only recently)
> 
> Bye,
>     Oleg
> 

Well.......
I sorta DISCOVERED THIS!
But, I bow to Oleg anyway!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great utilities!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Before seeing this I installed Slack 8.0 on another small partition, downloaded
2.4.18, latest reiser tools from slack's site. I had to so a --rebuild-sb
thought first. Then the rebuild tree.....

Now I am back in Linux heaven!  It just booted.

Oh man these errors freaked me the hell out.
I am still turned off by seeing the $25/per question for support on
namesys.com after clicking on "Support" with NO mention of the mailing list.
I found the mailing list LATER and some useful tips.

My brain kernel paniced!

Root FS backup commences...... :-)

Thank you Oleg!
Johnny O

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Re: Reiserfs has killed my root FS!?!

[Eugenio Mastroviti]

Oleg Drokin wrote:

> Ok, if you want your fs back, correct way is to download latest preversion of
> reiserfsprogs (reiserfsprogs-3.x.1c-pre4 for now) from namesys.com ftp site,
> build it somewhere, boot off rescue media of some kind, and then run
> reiserfsck with --rebuild-tree argument (and a path to your partition of

Sorry to bother you, but are you sure you spelled it correctly? The 
latest I could find was 3.x.1c-pre3 on the namesys ftp server.
I have the same problem on a machine (made worse by the fact that the 
filesystem was a RAID0 partition).
I keep getting "wrong superblock", even after I told reiserfsck to 
rebuild the superblock.
I won't pretend I know much about filesystems, so - is my situation 
hopeless? (meaning, does RAID mess things up even worse?) Am I doing 
something wrong? Is there a difference between -pre3 and -pre4 which 
might change the response of --rebuild-tree?

Thanks for any help

Eugenio

Re: Reiserfs has killed my root FS!?!

[Oleg Drokin]

Hello!

On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 05:25:00PM +0100, Eugenio Mastroviti wrote:

> >build it somewhere, boot off rescue media of some kind, and then run
> >reiserfsck with --rebuild-tree argument (and a path to your partition of
> Sorry to bother you, but are you sure you spelled it correctly? The 

I am.

> latest I could find was 3.x.1c-pre3 on the namesys ftp server.

Hm. -pre4 is not public yet, it seems.

> I have the same problem on a machine (made worse by the fact that the 
> filesystem was a RAID0 partition).
> I keep getting "wrong superblock", even after I told reiserfsck to 
> rebuild the superblock.

You mean, after the --rebuild-sb command?

What exactly have happened to your FS, BTW?

> I won't pretend I know much about filesystems, so - is my situation 
> hopeless? (meaning, does RAID mess things up even worse?) Am I doing 
> something wrong? Is there a difference between -pre3 and -pre4 which 
> might change the response of --rebuild-tree?

--rebuild-tree needs valid superblock, I think.

Bye,
    Oleg

Re: Reiserfs has killed my root FS!?!

[Eugenio Mastroviti]

Oleg Drokin wrote:

>>Sorry to bother you, but are you sure you spelled it correctly? The 
> 
> I am.

Sorry.

>>I have the same problem on a machine (made worse by the fact that the 
>>filesystem was a RAID0 partition).
>>I keep getting "wrong superblock", even after I told reiserfsck to 
>>rebuild the superblock.
> 
> You mean, after the --rebuild-sb command?

Yes. The first time I ran reiserfsck --rebuild-tree it told me to 
rebuild the superblock and so I ran --rebuild-sb. The startup messages 
only say the format is 3.5.x, so I selected the <=3.5.9 option

> What exactly have happened to your FS, BTW?

A complete - and so far unexplained - system freeze. The distro is SuSE 
7.3, kernel 2.4.10. I have used it at home ever since it came out 
without a single problem, so I'm quite surprised it died after a few 
days of operations just serving a Samba share and acting as a Squid 
proxy at the office (6-7 people using it, not heavy traffic).

The screen was blank and it needed a hard reboot. After the reboot I had 
the same error the initial post reported.

I do not know if the raid0 partition failed in some way and it crashed 
the system, or whether the system froze for some ther reason and the 
hard reboot messed up the partition as well - although I tend to favor 
the second case. I might have forgotten to disable APM, which on a 
number of Dell machines has given me problems (the box is an old Dell 
XPS with a 266 MHz PII). Possibly, APM kicked in and it froze the 
machine - but I'm surprised this happened after over a week of continued 
operations.


Well, I'll be very grateful for any insight you can offer

Eugenio

Re: Reiserfs has killed my root FS!?!

[Oleg Drokin]

Hello!

On Tue, May 14, 2002 at 09:41:44AM +0100, Eugenio Mastroviti wrote:

> >You mean, after the --rebuild-sb command?
> Yes. The first time I ran reiserfsck --rebuild-tree it told me to 
> rebuild the superblock and so I ran --rebuild-sb. The startup messages 
> only say the format is 3.5.x, so I selected the <=3.5.9 option

This is a mistake.
You need to choose other, more recent format.
It is highly unlikely you might have format of version <=3.5.9
If you have not done rebuild-tree after that again - you may do
--rebuild-sb and choose more recent format, then it should help.

> >What exactly have happened to your FS, BTW?
> A complete - and so far unexplained - system freeze. The distro is SuSE 
> 7.3, kernel 2.4.10. I have used it at home ever since it came out 

2.4.10 is way too old.

> Well, I'll be very grateful for any insight you can offer

First of all make sure that your raid array same up fully.
This is very important! Check all the partitions if they are of correct size.
Then do rebild-sb and choose more correct superblock version (if asked).
If you are not asked for the fs version, that's bad. Let us know then.

After that you might try to do --rebuild-sb and that one should help.

I see this --rebuild-sb causes a lot of confusion for people, when it asks
the format, I am going to make it to offer some hints.
Thanks for your report.

Bye,
    Oleg

Re: Reiserfs has killed my root FS!?!

[Eugenio Mastroviti]

Oleg Drokin wrote:

> First of all make sure that your raid array same up fully.
> This is very important! Check all the partitions if they are of correct size.

Already done. I booted with the rescue system from the installation CD 
and I rewrote /etc/raidtab. The partition table seems OK, the partitions 
  have the correct sizes and the correct types.
The raid array starts fine and /proc/mdstat reports everything OK


> Then do rebild-sb and choose more correct superblock version (if asked).
> If you are not asked for the fs version, that's bad. Let us know then.

Just done that.
It's asked me the fs type and I've entered the one you told me. It 
seemed to work. I ran --rebuild-tree after that and it started replaying 
the journal - which it had not done before - but then it still died with 
"wrong superblock". The exact message is:

init_source_bitmap: bitmap 0 (of 6450048 bits) is wrong - make all 
blocks [0-32768] as used

init_control_bitmap: wrong super block

I guess I made things worse with my initial attempt as rebuilding the 
superblock.

BTW - I tried, as I have nothing to lose at this point :) - to re-do 
--rebuild-sb and now it doesn't ask for the version

> Thanks for your report.

Thanks very much for your help

Eugenio

Re: Reiserfs has killed my root FS!?!

[Frank Schaefer]

On Sun, 2002-05-12 at 23:29, Becki Minich wrote:
> Firstly, I haven't subscribed to this list since 2.3 so please also copy 
> me on repsonses.
> Secondly, I am e-mailing from my Mother's place as it IS Mother's Day 
> AND my home PC will no longer boot Linux (my primary OS), so please send 
> responses to johnnyo@mindspring.com
> TIA :-)
> 
> Now the problem.
> I use reiserfs on all my filesystems.  I have noticed some minor 
> corruption of files in the past when I didnt shut down Linux properly 
> (lockups, etc).  I experiment alot with my computer.
> 
> Anyway lately I was havin a problem that required frequent reboots.  Now 
> I believe my root filesystem is corrupted?!?  Linux 2.4.18 boots till it 
> gets to
> 
> reiserfs: checking transaction log (device 08:12)
> attempt to access beyond end of device
> 08:12: rw=0 want=268574776 limit=8747392
> vs-13070: reiserfs_read_inode2: i/o failure occurred trying to find stat 
> data of [1 2 0x0 SD]
> Using r5 hash to sort names
> Reiserfs version 3.6.25
> VFS: Mounted root (reiserfs filesystem) readonly.
> Warning: unable to mount devfs, err: -5
> Freeing unused kernel memory: 224k freed
> Warning: unable to open an initial console.
> Kernel panic: No init found.
> 
> If someone can get me to the point where I can just get to read my 
> filesystem read-only, so I get get all my data off of it, I would be 
> EXTREMELY GRATEFUL!  I have some very important data on that FS.  I went 
> to the reiserfs web site to discover I'd get charged $25 for asking for 
> help, so unless someone convinces me otherwise, I will be converting to 
> EXT3 when this disaster is over...
> 
> Slackware Linux 8.1b2
> Linux 2.4.18
> ReiserFS 3.6.25
> GLIBC 2.2.5
> GCC 2.95.3

Hi John,

you have root mounted read-only, and devfs enabled. I think you get into
trouble because of devfs. Without the devices you can't get the console
and thus you can't do anything with the computer. Furtheron init will
try to create the .initctl pipe in /dev, which is due to the not mounted
devfs in a directory of the READ-ONLY root.

My guess: Your flesystem is readable and (mostly) correct. As some
others before me mentioned -- we don't know what you did of course.

My hint: Take your recovery floppies to get into your host. For the case
you don't have some, take the installation floppies from some distro.

Best wishes
Frank