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From: Martin Dalecki <dalecki@evision-ventures.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Russell King <rmk@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Neil Conway <nconway.list@ukaea.org.uk>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] 2.5.15 IDE 61
Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 13:11:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3CE0F0D0.7050404@evision-ventures.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E177b8s-0007lm-00@the-village.bc.nu>

Uz.ytkownik Alan Cox napisa?:
>>Something here smells fishy here - you shouldn't hold a spinlock for a long
>>time (a long time === spinlocking, setting up the drive, possibly scheduling,
> 
> 
> You can't hold it while scheduling or you may deadlock
> 
> 
>>transferring data, getting status, then unlocking).  Also, remember,
>>spinlocks are no-ops on uniprocessor systems.
> 
> 
> Its possible it can be done with a semaphore but the whole business is
> pretty tricky. IDE command processing occurs a fair bit at interrupt level
> and you definitely don't want to block interrupts for long periods.

... Becouse the chances are fscking high - that you will miss command
completion interrupts for the "other drive" on the same channel.
The dready heritage of "dangling ISA bus" with *idiotic* edge triggered
interrupts bite us here. Someone just please shoot this enginer
who saved the few pullup resistors in the head or send him alternatively
for "hunting white bears" in Siberia... about 15 years would be fine in my
opinnion.

> If the queue abstraction is right then the block layer should do all the
> synchronization work that is required. It may cost a few cycles on the odd
> case you can do overlapped command setup but that versus a nasty locking
> mess its got to be better to lose those few cycles.
> 
> I don't even Martin here, the ide locking is currently utterly vile

Don't worry - I got your point.


  reply	other threads:[~2002-05-14 12:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-05-14  9:49 [PATCH] 2.5.15 IDE 61 Neil Conway
2002-05-14  8:52 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-14 10:12   ` Neil Conway
2002-05-14  9:30     ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-14 11:10       ` Neil Conway
2002-05-14 10:21         ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-14 11:38           ` Russell King
2002-05-14 10:49             ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-14 12:10             ` Alan Cox
2002-05-14 11:11               ` Martin Dalecki [this message]
2002-05-14 12:47                 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-14 12:30                   ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-15 14:43                 ` Pavel Machek
2002-05-14 12:00               ` Russell King
2002-05-14 11:03                 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-14 13:03               ` Neil Conway
2002-05-14 13:27                 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-05-14 14:45                 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-14 14:30                   ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-14 16:20                     ` Neil Conway
2002-05-14 16:32                       ` Jens Axboe
2002-05-14 16:47                         ` Neil Conway
2002-05-14 16:51                           ` Jens Axboe
2002-05-15 11:37                             ` Neil Conway
2002-05-14 22:51                           ` Mike Fedyk
2002-05-14 16:26                     ` Jens Axboe
2002-05-14 19:34                     ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-05-15  6:16                       ` Jens Axboe
2002-05-15  8:32                         ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-05-15  9:42                           ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-15  9:32                       ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-15 11:44                         ` Neil Conway
2002-05-15 11:02                           ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-15 13:10                             ` Alan Cox
2002-05-15 13:34                               ` Neil Conway
2002-05-15 13:04                                 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-15 14:08                               ` benh
2002-05-15 16:40                         ` Denis Vlasenko
2002-05-15 11:55                           ` Neil Conway
2002-05-17  7:07                             ` Mike Fedyk
2002-05-17 11:06                               ` Neil Conway
2002-05-17 10:12                                 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-14 16:03                   ` Neil Conway
2002-05-14 16:46                     ` Alan Cox
2002-05-14 12:52       ` Daniela Engert
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-05-06  3:53 Linux-2.5.14 Linus Torvalds
2002-05-13  9:48 ` [PATCH] 2.5.15 IDE 61 Martin Dalecki

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