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From: Kasper Dupont <kasperd@daimi.au.dk>
To: Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Cc: Linux-Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] ext2 and ext3 block reservations can be bypassed
Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 20:25:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3CE15684.989AB0D3@daimi.au.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200205131709.g4DH9Fjv006328@pincoya.inf.utfsm.cl> <3CE1300A.990919E2@daimi.au.dk> <20020514115655.A22935@mark.mielke.cc>

Mark Mielke wrote:
> 
> 1) You can always submit a patch, and see whether other people approve of it.

I might decide to do that. But I wouldn't spend the time
without first knowing if:
a) There were some very good reasons not to change it.
b) Somebody knowing this code by heart could write a
   patch in five minutes.

> 
> 2) If you won't do it, why would somebody else working on something that
>    provides lower latency to user process response time, or improvement
>    to the IDE drivers, take the time to deal with this issue?

I don't intend to try to force somebody to do it, if
they have more important things to do.

> 
> As it is, there are plenty of other denial-of-service type attacks
> that can be performed that would be more effective than the 'exploit'
> you have mentioned. Your proposal would need to be 'fix them all', if
> your complaint is that Linux has a security hole.

It surely would be nice to prevent all DoS attacks. But
of course that would require a lot of work. However I
think most other DoS attacks could be solved by a reboot.

> 
> If you complaint is that an administrator might mistakenly believe
> that it is a security feature, I suggest your understand that this is
> merely one issue of quite a few. If the administrator is not aware of
> issues such as these, perhaps they should not be an administrator?

We cannot blame administrators before the documentation
has been changed.

-- 
Kasper Dupont -- der bruger for meget tid på usenet.
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  reply	other threads:[~2002-05-14 18:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-05-12 16:23 [RFC] ext2 and ext3 block reservations can be bypassed Kasper Dupont
2002-05-12 16:42 ` Jakob Østergaard
2002-05-12 17:34   ` Elladan
2002-05-12 18:15     ` Alexander Viro
2002-05-12 18:37       ` Elladan
2002-05-12 19:02         ` Jakob Østergaard
2002-05-12 19:04           ` Mark Mielke
2002-05-13 17:09         ` Horst von Brand
2002-05-13 17:52           ` Elladan
2002-05-13 17:57             ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-05-14 16:22               ` Elladan
2002-05-14 16:55                 ` Mark Mielke
2002-05-14 17:47                   ` Elladan
2002-05-14 18:51                     ` Kasper Dupont
2002-05-15 19:48                 ` Pavel Machek
2002-05-15 20:29                   ` Alan Cox
2002-05-14 15:40           ` Kasper Dupont
2002-05-14 15:56             ` Mark Mielke
2002-05-14 18:25               ` Kasper Dupont [this message]
     [not found] <791836807@toto.iv>
2002-05-12 22:04 ` Peter Chubb
2002-05-12 22:53   ` Alexander Viro
2002-05-13  4:22     ` Kasper Dupont
2002-05-13  4:51       ` Elladan
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-05-14 17:53 Jesse Pollard
2002-05-14 18:23 ` Mark Mielke
2002-05-14 19:11 ` Alexander Viro
2002-05-14 18:00 Jesse Pollard
2002-05-14 18:07 Jesse Pollard
2002-05-14 18:54 Jesse Pollard
2002-05-14 19:04 ` Alexander Viro
2002-05-14 19:55 ` Mark Mielke
2002-05-14 19:29 Jesse Pollard

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