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From: Martin Dalecki <dalecki@evision-ventures.com>
To: Neil Conway <nconway.list@ukaea.org.uk>
Cc: Mike Fedyk <mfedyk@matchmail.com>,
	vda@port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua,
	Anton Altaparmakov <aia21@cantab.net>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Russell King <rmk@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] 2.5.15 IDE 61
Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 12:12:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3CE4D7A7.6090704@evision-ventures.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E177dYp-00083c-00@the-village.bc.nu> <5.1.0.14.2.20020514202811.01fcc1d0@pop.cus.cam.ac.uk> <3CE22B2B.5080506@evision-ventures.com> <200205151138.g4FBcGY13110@Port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua> <3CE24CB9.8DFC5821@ukaea.org.uk> <20020517070750.GD627@matchmail.com> <3CE4E445.3F9F57A3@ukaea.org.uk>

Uz.ytkownik Neil Conway napisa?:
> Mike Fedyk wrote:
> 
>>On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 12:55:37PM +0100, Neil Conway wrote:
>>
>>>You can (and must) safely "touch the cable" in between TCQ commands in
>>>the right circumstances.  You are therefore touching the cable while the
>>>hwgroup is busy, hence my suggestion that the flag we use to prevent
>>>touching the cable during DMA should be named something other than busy.
>>
>>Ahh, but with TCQ the concept of busy changes.  The wire (simplified) is
>>only busy when the tags are being transfered, otherwise the cable is unused
>>unless the cable has been "locked" by one of the devices.
> 
> 
> Hmm: "locked by one of the devices": do you mean a DMA transfer for
> example?  These are initiated by the host, but proceed asynchronously,
> so I'm not sure I'd describe it as being locked "by the device" as
> such.  At any rate, the IDE code has to remember that the cable is
> asynchronously active until DMA ends...  (Or I suppose it could just
> check the hwif BMDMA bits for the active state.)

Grep for IDE_DMA busy bits to see it - it does precisely this.



  reply	other threads:[~2002-05-17 11:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-05-14  9:49 [PATCH] 2.5.15 IDE 61 Neil Conway
2002-05-14  8:52 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-14 10:12   ` Neil Conway
2002-05-14  9:30     ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-14 11:10       ` Neil Conway
2002-05-14 10:21         ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-14 11:38           ` Russell King
2002-05-14 10:49             ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-14 12:10             ` Alan Cox
2002-05-14 11:11               ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-14 12:47                 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-14 12:30                   ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-15 14:43                 ` Pavel Machek
2002-05-14 12:00               ` Russell King
2002-05-14 11:03                 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-14 13:03               ` Neil Conway
2002-05-14 13:27                 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-05-14 14:45                 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-14 14:30                   ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-14 16:20                     ` Neil Conway
2002-05-14 16:32                       ` Jens Axboe
2002-05-14 16:47                         ` Neil Conway
2002-05-14 16:51                           ` Jens Axboe
2002-05-15 11:37                             ` Neil Conway
2002-05-14 22:51                           ` Mike Fedyk
2002-05-14 16:26                     ` Jens Axboe
2002-05-14 19:34                     ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-05-15  6:16                       ` Jens Axboe
2002-05-15  8:32                         ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-05-15  9:42                           ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-15  9:32                       ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-15 11:44                         ` Neil Conway
2002-05-15 11:02                           ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-15 13:10                             ` Alan Cox
2002-05-15 13:34                               ` Neil Conway
2002-05-15 13:04                                 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-15 14:08                               ` benh
2002-05-15 16:40                         ` Denis Vlasenko
2002-05-15 11:55                           ` Neil Conway
2002-05-17  7:07                             ` Mike Fedyk
2002-05-17 11:06                               ` Neil Conway
2002-05-17 10:12                                 ` Martin Dalecki [this message]
2002-05-14 16:03                   ` Neil Conway
2002-05-14 16:46                     ` Alan Cox
2002-05-14 12:52       ` Daniela Engert
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-05-06  3:53 Linux-2.5.14 Linus Torvalds
2002-05-13  9:48 ` [PATCH] 2.5.15 IDE 61 Martin Dalecki

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