From: Martin Dalecki <dalecki@evision-ventures.com>
To: benh@kernel.crashing.org
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] 2.5.15 IDE 62
Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 13:40:25 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3CE4EC29.3090205@evision-ventures.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3CDFE1EE.3050800@evision-ventures.com> <20020513191308.10469@mailhost.mipsys.com>
Uz.ytkownik benh@kernel.crashing.org napisa?:
>>Just to clarify it... From the host view it's not the chipset
>>it's a channel we have to deal with. And there are typically two
>>channels on a host. For the serialized parts, we have to
>>possiblities:
>>
>>1. Preserve the current behaviour of using additionally a global
>>lock.
>>
>>2. "Cheat" and reuse the lock from the primary channel during
>>the initialization of the secondary channel.
>>
>>Hmmm.... Thinking a bit about it I'm now conviced that 2. is more
>>elegant then 1. And finally this will
>>just allow us to make the hwgroup_t go entierly away.
>
>
> I would do things differently. From the common point of view,
> what we deal with is
>
> controller
> / \
> channel x, channel y, ....
>
> That is an _arbitrary_ number of channels. So the host driver
> should just register individual "channels" to the IDE layer,
> each one has it's queue lock, period.
>
> Now, if for any reason, the host specific code has to synchronize
> between several of it's channels when dealing with things like
> chipset configuration, it's up to that host driver to know about
> it and deal with it; which make perfect sense to be done with a
> third lock specific to protecting those specific registers that
> are shared and that is completely internal to the host chipset
> driver.
>
> The only case I see where the host may have to additionally go
> and grab the other channel's locks (the queue lock or whatever
> you call it) is if the actual setting change on one channel
> has side effect on a currently transferring other channel.
>
> But that is completely internal to the host, and yes, I agree
> that reusing the other channel's lock is probably the best solution.
>
> But in cases where you just have 2 bitfields in the same register
> that need serialized access from both channels, a simple lock
> protecting only that register seems to be plenty enough.
>
> What did I miss ?
1. The fact that there are some cases where the initialization code
doesn't necessarily go down to the host chip drivers right now.
2. Most of the current code...
BTW> The code will be much cleaner in the upcomming ide 65, since
the allocation of the structures shared between two channels will be
simple pushed down to the corresponding host chip drivers instead of
the "match search" done after the channles have been initialized.
Since most of the host chip drivers are not reentrant anyway we will
be able to save quite a lot of allocation code as well.
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Thread overview: 222+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-05-06 3:53 Linux-2.5.14 Linus Torvalds
2002-05-06 6:30 ` Linux-2.5.14 Daniel Pittman
2002-05-06 6:51 ` Linux-2.5.14 Andrew Morton
2002-05-06 15:13 ` Linux-2.5.14 Linus Torvalds
2002-05-07 4:28 ` Linux-2.5.14 Daniel Pittman
2002-05-09 3:53 ` Linux-2.5.14 Daniel Pittman
2002-05-09 4:34 ` Linux-2.5.14 Andrew Morton
2002-05-09 6:02 ` Linux-2.5.14 Daniel Pittman
2002-05-06 6:47 ` Linux-2.5.14 bert hubert
2002-05-06 7:07 ` Linux-2.5.14 Andrew Morton
2002-05-06 14:00 ` Linux-2.5.14 Rik van Riel
2002-05-06 9:09 ` [PATCH] 2.5.14 IDE 55 Martin Dalecki
2002-05-06 17:48 ` David Lang
2002-05-06 22:40 ` Roman Zippel
2002-05-07 10:10 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-07 11:31 ` Roman Zippel
2002-05-07 10:31 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-07 10:34 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-07 11:48 ` Roman Zippel
2002-05-07 11:19 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-07 12:35 ` Roman Zippel
2002-05-07 12:36 ` Andrey Panin
2002-05-07 11:32 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-07 12:38 ` Dave Jones
2002-05-07 0:03 ` Roman Zippel
2002-05-07 10:12 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-07 11:39 ` Roman Zippel
2002-05-07 10:40 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-07 12:42 ` Roman Zippel
2002-05-07 11:22 ` [PATCH] 2.5.14 IDE 56 Martin Dalecki
2002-05-07 14:02 ` Padraig Brady
2002-05-07 13:15 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-07 14:30 ` Padraig Brady
2002-05-07 15:08 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-05-07 15:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-05-07 16:20 ` Jan Harkes
2002-05-07 15:26 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-07 21:36 ` Jan Harkes
2002-05-08 0:25 ` Guest section DW
2002-05-08 3:03 ` Jan Harkes
2002-05-08 9:03 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-08 12:10 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-08 10:51 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-07 16:29 ` Padraig Brady
2002-05-07 16:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-05-07 18:29 ` Kai Henningsen
2002-05-08 7:48 ` Juan Quintela
2002-05-08 16:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-05-07 17:08 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-07 17:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-05-07 17:19 ` benh
2002-05-07 17:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-05-07 17:30 ` benh
2002-05-10 1:45 ` Mike Fedyk
2002-05-07 17:43 ` Richard Gooch
2002-05-07 18:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-05-07 18:26 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-07 18:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-05-07 18:40 ` Richard Gooch
2002-05-07 18:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-05-07 23:54 ` Roman Zippel
2002-05-08 6:57 ` Kai Henningsen
2002-05-08 9:37 ` Ian Molton
2002-05-09 13:58 ` Pavel Machek
2002-05-08 8:21 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-07 17:27 ` Jauder Ho
2002-05-08 8:13 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-07 18:29 ` Patrick Mochel
2002-05-07 18:02 ` Greg KH
2002-05-07 18:44 ` Richard Gooch
2002-05-07 18:44 ` Patrick Mochel
2002-05-07 19:21 ` Richard Gooch
2002-05-07 19:58 ` Patrick Mochel
2002-05-07 18:49 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-05-07 19:47 ` Patrick Mochel
2002-05-07 22:03 ` Richard Gooch
2002-05-08 8:14 ` Russell King
2002-05-08 16:07 ` Richard Gooch
2002-05-08 17:07 ` Russell King
2002-05-08 8:18 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-08 8:07 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-08 7:58 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-08 12:18 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-08 11:09 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-08 12:42 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-08 11:23 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-09 2:37 ` Lincoln Dale
2002-05-09 3:10 ` Andrew Morton
2002-05-09 10:05 ` Lincoln Dale
2002-05-09 18:50 ` Andrew Morton
2002-05-10 0:33 ` Andi Kleen
2002-05-10 0:48 ` Andrew Morton
2002-05-10 1:06 ` Andi Kleen
2002-05-13 17:51 ` Pavel Machek
2002-05-14 21:44 ` Andi Kleen
2002-05-10 6:50 ` O_DIRECT performance impact on 2.4.18 (was: Re: [PATCH] 2.5.14 IDE 56) Lincoln Dale
2002-05-10 7:15 ` O_DIRECT performance impact on 2.4.18 (was: Re: [PATCH] 2.5.14IDE 56) Andrew Morton
2002-05-10 7:21 ` Jens Axboe
2002-05-10 8:12 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-10 10:14 ` Lincoln Dale
2002-05-10 12:36 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-11 3:23 ` Lincoln Dale
2002-05-13 11:19 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-13 23:58 ` Lincoln Dale
2002-05-14 0:22 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-14 2:43 ` O_DIRECT on 2.4.19pre8aa2 md device Lincoln Dale
2002-05-21 15:51 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-22 1:18 ` Lincoln Dale
2002-05-22 2:51 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-06-03 4:53 ` high-end i/o performance of 2.4.19pre8aa2 (was: Re: O_DIRECT on 2.4.19pre8aa2 device) Lincoln Dale
2002-05-12 11:23 ` O_DIRECT performance impact on 2.4.18 (was: Re: [PATCH] 2.5.14IDE 56) Lincoln Dale
2002-05-13 11:37 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-10 15:55 ` O_DIRECT performance impact on 2.4.18 (was: Re: [PATCH] 2.5.14 IDE 56) Linus Torvalds
2002-05-11 1:01 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2002-05-11 18:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-05-11 18:19 ` Larry McVoy
2002-05-11 18:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-05-11 18:37 ` Larry McVoy
2002-05-11 18:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-05-11 21:42 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2002-05-11 18:43 ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2002-05-11 23:38 ` Lincoln Dale
2002-05-12 0:36 ` yodaiken
2002-05-12 2:40 ` Andrew Morton
2002-05-11 18:26 ` O_DIRECT performance impact on 2.4.18 (was: Re: [PATCH] 2.5.14 Alan Cox
2002-05-11 18:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-05-11 18:45 ` O_DIRECT performance impact on 2.4.18 (was: Re: [PATCH] 2.5.14 IDE 56) yodaiken
2002-05-11 19:55 ` O_DIRECT performance impact on 2.4.18 Bernd Eckenfels
2002-05-11 14:18 ` O_DIRECT performance impact on 2.4.18 (was: Re: [PATCH] 2.5.14 IDE 56) Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2002-05-11 14:24 ` Jens Axboe
2002-05-11 18:25 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2002-05-11 20:17 ` Jens Axboe
2002-05-11 22:27 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2002-05-11 23:17 ` Lincoln Dale
2002-05-09 4:16 ` [PATCH] 2.5.14 IDE 56 Andre Hedrick
2002-05-09 13:32 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-09 14:58 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-08 18:21 ` Erik Andersen
2002-05-08 18:59 ` Dave Jones
2002-05-08 19:31 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-08 21:16 ` Erik Andersen
2002-05-08 22:14 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-09 13:13 ` Pavel Machek
2002-05-09 19:22 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-05-10 12:01 ` Padraig Brady
2002-05-09 13:18 ` Pavel Machek
2002-05-07 17:10 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-05-08 7:36 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-08 17:22 ` Greg KH
2002-05-08 18:46 ` Denis Vlasenko
2002-05-07 11:27 ` [PATCH] 2.5.14 IDE 57 Martin Dalecki
2002-05-07 13:16 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-05-07 12:34 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-07 13:56 ` Mikael Pettersson
2002-05-07 14:04 ` Dave Jones
2002-05-07 13:57 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-05-07 14:08 ` Dave Jones
2002-05-07 13:11 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-07 14:29 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-05-07 13:36 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-07 15:08 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-05-07 16:51 ` Dave Jones
2002-05-08 3:38 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-05-08 11:47 ` Dave Jones
2002-05-07 15:07 ` Padraig Brady
2002-05-07 17:21 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-05-11 14:09 ` Aaron Lehmann
2002-05-07 15:03 ` [PATCH] IDE 58 Martin Dalecki
2002-05-08 6:42 ` Paul Mackerras
2002-05-08 8:53 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-08 10:37 ` Bjorn Wesen
2002-05-08 10:16 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-08 19:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-05-08 19:10 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-05-08 20:31 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-08 19:49 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-05-08 20:44 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-08 20:04 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-05-09 20:20 ` Ian Molton
2002-05-08 20:36 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-05-08 20:29 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-05-08 20:06 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-05-09 12:14 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-09 15:19 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-05-09 20:20 ` Ian Molton
2002-05-08 11:00 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-05-09 19:58 ` [PATCH] 2.5.14 IDE 59 Martin Dalecki
2002-05-11 4:16 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-05-11 16:59 ` [PATCH] 2.5.15 IDE 60 Martin Dalecki
2002-05-11 18:47 ` Pierre Rousselet
2002-05-11 19:12 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-05-11 19:52 ` Pierre Rousselet
2002-05-11 23:48 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-05-12 19:19 ` pdc202xx.c fails to compile in 2.5.15 Zlatko Calusic
2002-05-12 19:40 ` Jurriaan on Alpha
2002-05-12 22:00 ` Petr Vandrovec
2002-05-13 12:03 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-13 9:48 ` [PATCH] 2.5.15 IDE 61 Martin Dalecki
2002-05-13 12:17 ` [PATCH] 2.5.15 IDE 62 Martin Dalecki
2002-05-13 13:48 ` Jens Axboe
2002-05-13 13:02 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-13 15:38 ` Jens Axboe
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2002-05-13 16:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-05-13 16:55 ` Jens Axboe
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2002-05-13 18:02 ` benh
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2002-05-13 17:52 ` benh
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2002-05-13 19:13 ` benh
2002-05-14 8:48 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-17 11:40 ` Martin Dalecki [this message]
2002-05-17 2:27 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-05-13 15:36 ` Tom Rini
2002-05-14 10:26 ` [PATCH] 2.5.15 IDE 62a Martin Dalecki
2002-05-14 10:28 ` [PATCH] 2.5.15 IDE 63 Martin Dalecki
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2002-05-15 13:12 ` Russell King
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