From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Thu, 23 May 2002 14:50:24 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Thu, 23 May 2002 14:50:23 -0400 Received: from [195.63.194.11] ([195.63.194.11]:14863 "EHLO mail.stock-world.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Thu, 23 May 2002 14:50:21 -0400 Message-ID: <3CED2B11.90301@evision-ventures.com> Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 19:46:57 +0200 From: Martin Dalecki User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; pl-PL; rv:1.0rc1) Gecko/20020419 X-Accept-Language: en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tomas Szepe CC: "Randy.Dunlap" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: kb25 manual [was Re: [Linux-usb-users] Re: What to do with all of the USB UHCI drivers in the kernel?] In-Reply-To: <20020523154252.GA24260@louise.pinerecords.com> <20020523160136.GC24260@louise.pinerecords.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Uz.ytkownik Tomas Szepe napisa?: >>| > BTW> one of the reasons I never bothered myself with kbuild-2.5 >>| > is for example that nio matter how frequently Keith >>| > is advertising it - every time I go there to have a look at it >>| > at sf what I find is a scatter heap of .tar.gz. The documentation >>| > about how to install it makes me nervous, since I would >>| > rather just expect a diff and a README how to use it, so I never >>| > look after it. >>| >>| Duh... All you need is the core package (diff #1), the architecture >>| independent modifications package (diff #2) and finally diff #3 that >>| adds the arch-specific stuff. Everything's in a single list on sf. >>| >>| then just do s/t like >>| cd /usr/src/linux-2.4.19-pre8 && zcat \ >>| ../kbuild-2.5-core-14.gz \ >>| ../kbuild-2.5-common-2.4.19-pre8-1.gz \ >>| ../kbuild-2.5-i386-2.4.19-pre8-1.gz \ >>| | patch -sp1 >>| >>| and read the comprehensive manual in Documentation/kbuild/ >>| >>| What's there to be nervous about? Well perhaps lazy would be more adequate to express my feelings. First why the hell three different diff files? I don't give a damn witt about what the internal architecure of it is. And I don't wan't to miss any non i386 build. (I have ARM for example as well.) I don't wan't to care whatever this is all complete. And I just expect the documentation about how to use it right at the top in README or INSTALL. I'm a human and humans tend to love to stick to habits. And I already got in to the habit of: - One thing one patch. - Something to compile look after README or INSTALL first there. Even the kbuild name isn't intuitive new-kernel-build would be more clear. I really just wan't to see how it works first and I wan't to see that it indeed work's better then what I have already before I look at how it is done Call me arrogant (and most propably it would be justifyed in this case), but this aggressive splitup gives me prejudictions about the whole thing simply beeing overdesigned...