From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 24 May 2002 11:07:52 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 24 May 2002 11:07:51 -0400 Received: from pop.gmx.de ([213.165.64.20]:15471 "HELO mail.gmx.net") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id ; Fri, 24 May 2002 11:07:50 -0400 Message-ID: <3CEE4937.7C4E37AB@gmx.net> Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 16:07:51 +0200 From: Gunther Mayer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.19-pre4 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter =?iso-8859-1?Q?W=E4chtler?= CC: Martin Dalecki , linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Linux-usb-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Linux-usb-users] Re: What to do with all of the USB UHCI drivers In-Reply-To: <3CECFBEE.9010802@evision-ventures.com> <20020523160410.GC11153@kroah.com> <3CED2CF5.5050202@evision-ventures.com> <3CEDF811.9020801@loewe-komp.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Peter Wächtler wrote: > Martin Dalecki wrote: > > Uz.ytkownik Greg KH napisa?: > > > >> Anyway, here's the documentation that you need: > >> The module usb-ohci is now gone. Use ohci-hcd instead. > >> > >> The people with UHCI controllers have a big more documentation to read: > >> The module uhci is now gone. If you used this module, use > >> uhci-hcd instead. The module usb-uhci is now gone. If you used > >> this module, use usb-uhci-hcd instead. If you have a preference > >> over which UHCI module works better for you, please email > >> greg@kroah.com your comments, as one of these modules will be > >> going away in the near future. > > > > > > Thank's that is explaining it. > > But I would have loved it if it appeared with + in front in > > the patch somewhere. That's the only true problem I had. > > OK? > > > > BTW.> usb-ohci seems to be a more reasonable name, since > > it tells me directly - hey buddy I'm USB the -hcd doen't > > tell me anything in addition and is entierly redundant, or > > is there a ohci.o module there? > > > > And why not just doing the following. > > > > 1. Rename usb-ohci to usb-ohci-old > > > > 2. Rename ohci-hcd to usb-ohci > > > > Much less grief and guessing what happens :-). Second this (in fact "first this"). Elegant solution which would not only habe prevented this thread but help developers and users no end. > > > > > Just a suggestion. > > > > You do not understand the _cause_ for the rename. Martin and me understand what hcd means, and we think it is non-untuitive and user-hostile. > > > hcd stands for Host Controller Device. The names mark them as that. > Now you can argue, that all the SCSI controller modules do not have > HBC (host bus controller) in their name - and then look at the > different naming of the other scsi modules: > > scsi_mod.o sd_mod.o sg.o sr_mod.o st.o > > Also not very intuitiv. We could put them in different subdirs... Obviously you cannot balance between intuitive and user-friendly.