From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sat, 25 May 2002 13:51:20 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sat, 25 May 2002 13:51:19 -0400 Received: from relay04.valueweb.net ([216.219.253.238]:6407 "EHLO relay04.valueweb.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sat, 25 May 2002 13:51:17 -0400 Message-ID: <3CEFCE9F.9C0D5A8C@opersys.com> Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 13:49:19 -0400 From: Karim Yaghmour X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: en, French/Canada, French/France, fr-FR, fr-CA MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Linus Torvalds CC: Thunder from the hill , Larry McVoy , Andrea Arcangeli , Dan Kegel , Andrew Morton , Hugh Dickins , Christoph Rohland , Jens Axboe , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: patent on O_ATOMICLOOKUP [Re: [PATCH] loopable tmpfs (2.4.17)] In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org I'll be short, no worry. Linus Torvalds wrote: > So you split your problem into the RT device driver and the user. And of > story. Stop this stupid FUD. The VDC report is no FUD. As the link I gave states, this is a "survey of 11,000 embedded systems developers." Their #1 reason for not using Linux: real-time limitations. > The thing that disgusts me is that this "patent" thing is used as a > complete red herring, and the real issue is that some people don't like > the fact that the kernel is under the GPL. Tough cookies. I have no disagreement with the kernel being GPL. > Some people (you and Karim) seem to think that the GPL requirement si > going to hurt Linux in the embedded space. Fair enough. That's what all > the BSD people claimed was the case about Linux in server space, Linux on > the desktop, or Linux anywhere. I didn't say that. I said the current situation, with all that it involves, is hurting Linux. The GPL requirement is only part of the picture. > Personally, I'll just bet on open source myself. Even in the embedded > space. And anybody who bets against me, I just don't care about, because > it has zero impact on me. Fair enough. Note that I'm not betting against you, I'm just trying to point out a problem. Whether you care to deal with this is problem is an entirely different issue. Karim =================================================== Karim Yaghmour karim@opersys.com Embedded and Real-Time Linux Expert ===================================================