From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sat, 25 May 2002 21:02:23 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sat, 25 May 2002 21:02:22 -0400 Received: from parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk ([195.92.249.252]:52228 "EHLO www.linux.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sat, 25 May 2002 21:02:21 -0400 Message-ID: <3CF03526.78F89E24@zip.com.au> Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 18:06:46 -0700 From: Andrew Morton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.19-pre8 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Schwebel CC: Karim Yaghmour , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: patent on O_ATOMICLOOKUP [Re: [PATCH] loopable tmpfs (2.4.17)] In-Reply-To: <20020524223950.D22643@work.bitmover.com> <20020525091444.H28795@work.bitmover.com> <3CEFB9C6.FC21D7CB@opersys.com> <20020525092557.K28795@work.bitmover.com> <3CEFBEA3.71611EDB@opersys.com> <20020526004710.A598@schwebel.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Robert Schwebel wrote: > > On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 12:41:07PM -0400, Karim Yaghmour wrote: > > Developers will simply not come out in the cold and say we chose OS xyz > > instead of Linux because of the rtlinux issues. But talk to them in > > private and then you get an entirely different picture. > > That's also my experience: > > - I have been on all major automation trade shows in Germany for about 5 > years > > - I am the author of one of the two German books about Embedded Linux and > of lots of articles about Linux for automation > > - I have organized the largest developer conference in Germany about "Linux > for industrial applications" > > During all that activities I have talked to hundrets of people who are > either already working with Linux or considering it's use. What Karim says > here does exactly reflect the mood of the people. > Could you please tell us, just so it is really clear, what these people's concerns are? What obstacles they see to using Linux in this industry? -