From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Wed, 29 May 2002 04:33:07 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Wed, 29 May 2002 04:33:06 -0400 Received: from mail.loewe-komp.de ([62.156.155.230]:14854 "EHLO mail.loewe-komp.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Wed, 29 May 2002 04:33:05 -0400 Message-ID: <3CF4927E.7070508@loewe-komp.de> Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 10:34:06 +0200 From: Peter =?ISO-8859-1?Q?W=E4chtler?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.8) Gecko/20020204 X-Accept-Language: de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Mielke CC: Karim Yaghmour , Larry McVoy , "Adam J. Richter" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: business models [was patent stuff] In-Reply-To: <200205272152.OAA03070@adam.yggdrasil.com> <20020527152452.A24502@work.bitmover.com> <3CF2BE26.4FF03387@opersys.com> <3CF34DF4.9050905@loewe-komp.de> <20020528094604.A16952@mark.mielke.cc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Mark Mielke wrote: > On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 11:29:24AM +0200, Peter Wächtler wrote: > >>Karim Yaghmour wrote: >> >>>I agree that this should go on some other list, but 'til then, here >>>are my 2c. No offense Larry, but many of your arguments are the >>>same used by Microsoft to push their vision of publicly available >>>source. >>> >>Just a quick suggestion: keep Linux open (THE operating system) as basis >>for future development, enhancement. I think it's called "public facility" >>like power plants and infrastructure that is needed for a healthy society >>(at least politicians shall work for the publics benefit). >> > > Just for a quick interjection... under the model you describe, the > governments of this world should be paying for linux kernel > development. :-) > Do you vote against that? I'm not. It does not have to be financed by the government - but it can. And I think that already happens in smaller amounts in Germany. The BSI (my translation: ministry for security in information technology) already sponsors the project SPHINX for developing encrypted email services (based on GNU gpg). This is only one example. Why not? Computers are getting more and more important in our daily life. It's obvious to protect common goods. Microsoft can still develop their non disclosed products for "more security". I thought moms and dads would still teach their children: "If a stranger talks to you, offering chocolate and says: trust me - run away and ask other for help" Oh, is that too old fashioned? ;-)